Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lawrence Fordyce (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  02:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Lawrence Fordyce
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I don't think this article is an outright hoax, but it does appear to have very exaggerated claims. The sources in the intro for "mixing and producing" artists bear out to nothing more than credits for remixes. Quite frankly, if I pared this article back to just what could be verified to the sources, it might qualify for speedy deletion under A7. I feel the more transparent first step is to debate the merits of the article. Unless substantial coverage in independent sources (WP:GNG) is found, I strongly favor deletion of this article. if this debate produces another no consensus (no participants other than the nominator in the first one), then the WP:BLP axe must be taken to the article. —C.Fred (talk) 02:26, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: While it is not impossible to sell lots of records with a remix, it is usually due to the success of the original version which is produced by different people. One only needs to check the alleged Michael Jackson remix to understand why this article has serious and irreparable problems; I found this at Discogs - One Last Chance but the official remix release is here. The original version is a totally different CD, one that more importantly, there is no record that it even charted at Billboard. In fact there is nothing on Billboard that gives support to any of the so called "38 Billboard Hits" being claimed. If such scale of success should exist, then this would probably be reflected with a few interviews with reputable magazines per WP:GNG. Also, this amount of success is usually reflected on the Grammy nominations book, it seems strange that not one single nomination was achieved. Remixes, unless the subject if of an indisputable fame (in which case it would be easier to obtain magazine interviews) are usually not a good vehicle to establish notability, much less if they are mp3 downloads. Jrod2 (talk) 10:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * comment This person does not seem to be a hoax, but is one of those people confined to the fine print well down on the list of credits. I did not actually see any real stories on the man, just mention of the name, so I would say that WP:Notability is not achieved. 11:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:55, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete remixers are not as important as the artists, writers, producers and only a very few deserve to be considered important to the record's success. I don't see where this subject contributed to the success of any of the records. Ubot16 (talk) 00:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
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