Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laxius Power

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The result of the debate was Delete. 4 to 2 with an abstain that sounds like a delete vote. Woohookitty 04:46, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Laxius_Power
This page should be deleted from Wikipedia. First off, there's nothing of substance in this entry. All that it says is that this game "enjoys success", and is "one of the most successful games" made with RPG Tsukuru. Both statements are subjective and have nothing to do with what should be in an encyclopedia. I hope that others will feel the same. Michiel Sikma 3 July 2005 16:32 (UTC)
 * Delete, rewrite. The subject is notable, and deserves a page. "Laxius Power" -wikipedia on Google returns about 15,000 results. But the article is crap. Let it be restarted. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 16:43 (UTC)
 * This is not subjective. Success is nowhere subjective. Would you say Titanic's success is subjective? LP has enjoyed a massive following so it has been very successful for what it is (a free RPG). Now unless you've got something relevant to say, please shut up. &mdash; (Unsigned comment by 195.78.12.156; user's 1st edit.)
 * Please see WP:CIV. A &#1080; D &#1103; 01D  TALK  EMAIL  July 3, 2005 17:51 (UTC)
 * Also, do not remove other editors' comments. A &#1080; D &#1103; 01D  TALK  EMAIL  July 3, 2005 18:18 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. 369 unique Google hits. A &#1080; D &#1103; 01D  TALK  EMAIL  July 3, 2005 17:51 (UTC)
 * Keep. Laxius Power is quite notable and has been reviewed by quite a few PC gaming websites. The total number of downloads is also quite high. If the nominator feels so strongly about the implication that the game enjoys success, why not removing the affirmations instead of sending the article to VfD? --Sn0wflake 3 July 2005 22:02 (UTC) Abstain. The article just keeps getting worse. In the future I will consider writing a proper article for it, but until then, this does not belong to the Wikipedia. --Sn0wflake 6 July 2005 16:06 (UTC)
 * Delete POV, notability not established. JamesBurns 4 July 2005 01:05 (UTC)
 * Keep. Laxius power is a VERY popular and well known game, both within and out of the amateur game production community. This article is not particularly informative, though I've let the creator of the games know about this entry, and he is interested in editing it to include a lot more information, as long as it doesn't get deleted first. RealmKnight 3 July 2005 22:02 (UTC)
 * How is letting the author of the games edit this article going to make it less biased? --Michiel Sikma 5 July 2005 19:42 (UTC)
 * Michiel: Because the author can add stuff to the article, like pictures and informations.
 * Anonymous editor: I absolutely do not believe that the author of this game will be able to present it objectively. The page will be reduced to a personal advertising outlet this way. Anybody can see that coming.
 * Keep. Laxius Power is one of the most famous free RPG. The website has had 5 millions page views in one year and 4500 registered members. There is also a lot of following going on from the fans, not fading since November 2001. Success is undeniable.

Seems that the page was edited to be even more subjective. "Random returns to resume his fight with the Demons, this time in the fiercest, most dreaded incarnation of his enemies, in the most thrilling and epic of his adventures so far." -- is this an objective encyclopedia entry?

--Michiel Sikma 5 July 2005 19:39 (UTC)


 * Michiel, you seem to miss the point that the comment relates to HIS adventures. For instance, "The most thrilling of HIS adventures". "Most dreaded incarnation of HIS enemies". How come this is subjective? Play the games and you'll see this is nowhere subjective. However the summary (overall) might be toned down a little in order to fit better the goal of an encyclopedia.
 * You don't seem to realize that "most thrilling of his adventures" is not objective at all. This is the author of a game abusing an encyclopedia to cite catch phrases. For that reason alone, this article needs to be cleaned up severely, if not deleted. Basically, what you're telling me right now is "but the games REALLY ARE GOOD!" I don't care about that. This is not a rave review site. It's obvious that people who are part of Laxius Power's fanbase are going to be making these comments to try and keep this article up to hype standards. See Spam for our policy on advertising. Also, please add bullets when responding to someone, and don't place comments inbetween someone else's comments. See Tutorial for more information.
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