Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lbenj


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Daniel (talk) 18:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Lbenj

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Disputed PROD. Subject doesn't appear to pass WP:MUSICBIO, sources are either primary, unreliable. There isn't a WP:SIGCOV also. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians,  and Morocco. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Sources are pretty unreliable, and also none are in English. Large parts of the article are also unsourced. HarukaAmaranth 春香 20:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * English-language sources are preferred, but foreign language sources are allowed, per WP:NONENG. Mooonswimmer 15:23, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Sources are PR/SEO sites like welovebuzz and/or interviews/his statements so not independent or trivial coverage. S0091 (talk) 21:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Mooonswimmer for the additional information which prompted me to do some more digging and found he was nominated for an All Africa Music Award (source) and this Haaretz article which states he is "at the top of many Arab countries charts". Granted "charts" is vague but between what you provided and this, it gets me over the hump to Keep.  S0091 (talk) 19:26, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also found (Al Bayane) about the Morocco Music Awards for which Lbenj was nominated and explains sales and downloads figures do not exist for Morocco and states "the nominated artists come from the top broadcasts of Moroccan music on the three associated radios (Chada FM, Hit Radio and Radio 2M) during the year 2017, for the following categories: Rap/Hip Hop/Rnb, modern song, Pop, Fusion-Rock, popular music/RAI, Pop-Dance and the new feature of this edition." (translated from French via ProQuest), thus meeting at least WP:NMUSIC #11.  S0091 (talk) 19:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Pinging @Vanderwaalforces and @HarukaAmaranth for their consideration of these additional findings. S0091 (talk) 19:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @S0091 Thank you for doing these findings. I am now satisfied a bit as some criteria has been met. I will lean to weak keep. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Lbenj is a very well-known rapper in Morocco and is one of the the country's most prominent representatives of rap. In 2019, he performed at Mawazine Festival (source), which has been described as the largest and most important music festival in Africa by Billboard. In 2023, he performed at Rab'Africa. Le360 and H24 Info (1, 2) are well-known online publications in Morocco, with editorial teams and no apparent sponsored content. Admittedly, despite being one of the most well-known and widely streamed rappers in the country, there isn't much decent significant coverage in mainstream publications and I can't find a national music chart for Morocco, so it looks like building a case for notability by our standards may be prove to be difficult.
 * Edit: Nominated for significant All Africa Music Award, performed at Africa's largest festival, placed in rotation nationally by top broadcasts of Moroccan music, and has received some non-trivial, independent coverage. Certainly passes WP:MUSICBIO. Great work on the research, . Mooonswimmer 12:13, 30 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:44, 30 October 2023 (UTC)


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