Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Le Plus Grand Français


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Not a copyright violation, as noted on this and many other AFDs by Epeefleche and others. Notability concerns addressed by Deb per WP:TVSHOW. (non-admin closure) I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 07:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Le Plus Grand Français

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Non-notable, possibly copyvio. cf. Articles for deletion/200 Greatest Israelis. List articles that simply reproduce lists published elsewhere are non-notable. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:02, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Convert into a proper article and change listing to the top 10 on the list like 100 Greatest Britons.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:04, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. As explained at length at the indicated AfD, there is obviously no copyvio at all.  If there were, we would have to delete (and no press could reflect) the results of Academy Award polls, and Gallup Polls, and the like.  The relevant Supreme Court case (Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service, 111 S. Ct. 1282 (1991)) is set forth at the above-indicated AfD.  See also (with the same conclusion) Articles for deletion/100 greatest Romanians and Articles for deletion/100 Greatest Britons; and note that copyvio wasn't even claimed in the failed Afd at Articles for deletion/The Greatest American.
 * I note, as well, that this appears to be part of a series of PRODs and AfDs today by the same nom, of many of the national poll results reflected here.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:04, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets WP:TVSHOW. Deb (talk) 19:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. First, I note that at Articles for deletion/100 Welsh Heroes, the closer of the AfD to which the nom points objected to nom's use of his close as precedent.  He wrote: "No blanket declaration about the inherent notability of such lists was made, or even implied, in my closing statement .... And I don't know how much clearer I could have been that copyright issues were not considered as a factor in that close."


 * Second, it is clear as discussed above that there is not any copyvio. In addition, nom's last sentence is simply inapplicable.  As to notability, I agree with the consensus of the editors, a majority of whom have !voted !keep.  I also note (as wp:otherstuffexists permits) that we have thousands of lists of people from country x (or city y, or college z), which weren't even the results of polls -- just collections that random editors chose -- and this certainly has greater indicia of notability than such lists.


 * Finally, I note that at the 2-dozen-odd AfDs that nom made of the same ilk most commentators are expressing keen disagreement with nom's parallel nominations. The AfDs, which are running concurrently with this one, can be found at most of the national poll results reflected here.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep just as for the others.Not copyvio, as has been clearly explained above. There is no policy against these lists, and the assertion of the nom does not make policy  DGG ( talk ) 16:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note to closer, this AfD is not transcluded in the AfD Log. I am adding it now. Please consider the failure to transclude when deciding when to close this discussion. Monty  845  20:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep – per rationales provided by user:Epeefleche and user:DGG, and the manner in which this article provides a useful means of listing biography articles. Northamerica1000 (talk) 12:00, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Everyone makes the same arguments in all of these, so it'd save time if they were just nominated at once. Anyway, its not a copyvio, no policies violated, and its a perfectly valid Wikipedia list article grouping similar things together, and linking to blue articles about the people listed there.   D r e a m Focus  20:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep again no violations, meets WP:List, no good reason for deletion given byu nominator. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 18:16, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.