Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Learn at Home 8-12


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to School District 68 Nanaimo-Ladysmith. Spartaz Humbug! 19:24, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Learn at Home 8-12

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non notable school program Wuh  Wuz  Dat  07:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * How do you define a notable vs. a non notable school program? - Lclairem (talk) 07:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)Lclairem
 * Hi Lclairem. I'm putting a brief introduction to notability on Wikipedia on your talk page, which will hopefully let you contribute to the debate. - DustFormsWords (talk) 08:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, or merge - Fails WP:GNG, and WP:RS, in addition to which, it falls under primary/elementary schools which do not qualify for articles, and which are generally merged to their governing authority or locality. This DL school and its programme is a standard feature of education and it appears to have done nothing out of the ordinary to assert any degree of notability for an insertion in an encyclopedia. The Wikipedia is not another schools listing website such as all the external links that are provided. The one referenced source is not relevant the subject's notability or to the article. --Kudpung (talk) 10:13, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Where's the guideline for secondary schools which do not qualify for articles? By serving up to grade 12, this is a secondary school. —C.Fred (talk) 15:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure where you got that idea from, but in the part of Canada we're talking about, Secondary education starts at age 13 to 14. See here. This article is about a primary school initiative. Catfish Jim   &#38; the soapdish  19:42, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yet per the article, "Learn@Home 8-12 provides free secondary school courses to students in the Nanaimo-Ladysmith school district in British Columbia, Canada."[emphasis added] There is a separate primary school initiative, but that's not what this article is addressing. Further quoting the official site: "to work towards their BC Dogwood Diploma and/or to upgrade their high school courses" and "Is designed for students in grades 8 to 12." That's secondary school. —C.Fred (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a difference between "offering courses", and being a "school". As this seems to be a "Distance learning program", and not an actual school, I feel the best solution may be to MERGE the information into the parent school district article. Wuh  Wuz  Dat  20:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The underlying article has been listed at WP:SCHOOLS with a note made of this AfD —C.Fred (talk) 15:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —C.Fred (talk) 15:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG, which states "School district and high school (or equivalent) articles are usually kept, as they are almost always considered notable, unless their existence cannot be verified in order to stop hoaxes." Bill 33 is sufficient to verify the existence of the school. Accordingly, the article should be kept and improved—or if it never gets beyond a stub, merged with the district's article, which is still a keep outcome. —C.Fred (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC) revised 05:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep I agree with C.Fred. ElKevbo (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Non notable primary school initiative. Catfish Jim   &#38; the soapdish  19:44, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It may not matter to you or change your opinion but grades 9-12 are secondary school, not primary school. ElKevbo (talk) 23:29, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Since this AfD was started, the article has been expanded to cover the fact that it may well indeed be offering education in mainstream core subjects not to 8 - 12 year old pupils, but to American school grade nomenclature 8 - 12, which would mean that it is is a provider of secondary education. This may  significantly  change the status  of this education provider per WP:WPSCHOOLS, but two questions still need answering: When is a school not a school? And does a distance learning programme assert notability? FWIW, I think it does not, and therefore my Delete or Merge statement still stands. Kudpung (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that "When is a school not a school?" is a key question here. Based on the discussion at the talk page, it appears to be a school: it has a school number issued by the education ministry in BC. I also agree that it has enough not-a-school elements that the best treatment is probably as a section of the district's article. —C.Fred (talk) 04:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to school district article. I agree with C. Fred and Kudpung. Visiting the program and district's website clearly identify this as a "program" and not a "school".  It notes that students enrolled in this program have access to district resources which makes it a district program of study, not an actual school. LonelyBeacon (talk) 03:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And to clarify, I'm leaning toward merging the article into the district's. However, that's still retaining the content of the article, so I still recommend keeping it. —C.Fred (talk) 05:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect or merge to School District 68 Nanaimo-Ladysmith. "Learn at Home 8-12" program is not a "high school", any more so than an American school district's GED program would be. As the article demonstrates, this program is one that is authorized for all school districts in British Columbia.  Although it should be mentioned in the district article, I don't think that this program is more notable than any other alternative education program created under BC law.  Mandsford 13:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.