Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leathermarket JMB


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. (non-admin closure) Logan Talk Contributions 00:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Leathermarket JMB

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No indication of notability per WP:ORG. Sources given are either not independent or are incidental mentions in other stories. Prod contested by creator without explanation. Shire Reeve (talk) 11:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  —Shire Reeve (talk) 11:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - I had tried to start a discussion about what (in detail) the concerns were about sources and notability on the article's talk page, but I had no response. I'm still learning about wikipedia etiquette, but I'd be grateful for more specific information about the concerns with this article so I can address them. As I pointed out on the talk page, there are plenty of similar - and arguably less notable - organisations, working in the same field that have wikipedia pages. many thanks Jpmaytum (talk) 11:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:26, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Thanks for your feedback. As I say on the article's talk page, it's still a work in progress and I thought I'd start with links as to why a non-housing audience would have heard of the organisation. I'm happy to add some links to government/ professional sources with my next update in the hope of including the article. many thanks Jpmaytum (talk) 13:27, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Jpmaytum (talk) 15:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm trying, in general, to increase the information about social housing forms and structres in the UK and am pulling together and editing entries to help with this. As I pointed out around the similar delection discussion for Kensington and Chelsea TMO, It is really hard to source good information about social housing as it is not widely covered in mainstream media and it is not a great area of academic research, although arguably it is an important area of public policy. This is made more challenging when the local media is either behind a paywall, or has little internet content. However I'm trying to ensure that I can source information to better demonstrate notability in this case


 * Comment - Have discovered some new quality sources to determine notability. A study by the Cities Programme at the London School of Economics ('The Inhabitant') which uses Leathermarket JMB as a model of resident involvement and does some detailed ethnography of residents on JMB estates. Likewise I've discovered an (older) UK Governemnt report that cites the JMB as a model of involvement and a report of a comment by Matthew Taylor (previously Tony Blair's chief strategy advisor) citing the JMB for its resident involvement.

Hope this is useful

Jpmaytum (talk) 10:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 15:18, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Its obvious from this discussion that the article is being worked on and seems to be worth believing in as long as progress continues to be made. Wickedjacob (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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