Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lebanese Australian English


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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Lebanese Australian English

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artlicle offers no information and seems to exist to push POV in some other articles. Term is unknown and as for the "dialect" itself it is not recognised nor do you get many hits from google. Raya 85 06:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, no attribution of notability to credible sources. Likely not much here except some slang. --Dhartung | Talk 09:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RS. Stormtracker94 12:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   —Recurring dreams 13:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:Reliable sources. Unencyclopedic and POV article. Keb25 13:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete as being sourced from a single point. I'll change this if more reliable sources. can be presented. There only appears to be one reliable source (added during this debate) that mentions the title. - Peripitus (Talk) 22:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I have no opinion on the debate but it took me precisely 3 seconds to find a conference paper at the University of Queensland on this topic. The linguistics faculty of Macquarie University also seems to have some info, although this may relate to the same paper. Orderinchaos 00:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn - I missed that. I've searched around and it appears two papers were presented (2006) by the same authors about this. The abstract went in the "Australian Journal of Psychology" in 2006 and two papers presented in July and December of the same year at linguistics conferences in Sydney and Brisbane. I can't seem to find anything else except for this one-off by two academics. Does not seem to have taken off anywhere. An article from the Fourth International Conference on Spoken Language (1996) by Kumpf, K.; King, R.W. refers to the speech of Lebanese Australians as accented rather than a separate variation of Australian English. - Peripitus (Talk) 13:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, I'm not an expert in the field, so I'm quite happy to take someone else's word for it :) Orderinchaos 13:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above. Twenty Years 12:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. A single reference which really doesn't say terribly much.  Nothing to establish it a as a widely known concept. &mdash;Moondyne 14:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - as already stated, the single reference is not sufficient to demonstrate that this is a term in wide currency or has a phraseology distinct enough for its own article. While only an abstract appears on-line the reference is in any case apparently about accents and pronunciation more than a social or cultural phenomena. The article is also of dubious accuracy. Most Lebanese Australians speak Australian English (not "a small number"). The suggestion that Lebanese people somehow seclude themselves from other nationalities is either irrelevant (to the extent that every nationaliy associates with other people of the same background) or false (Lebanese Australians have by and large been integrated into the general community for decades). Euryalus 03:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


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