Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Baldry (2nd nomination)


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The result was Delete. Importance is asserted, but not shown through reliable sources. Pastordavid (talk) 14:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Lee Baldry
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procedural nomination&mdash;version brought to AFD: In my opinion, this is a speedy deletion candidate. However, my opinion is secondary to consensus, which appears not to support this. Found as a PROD-nominated deletion; the PROD nominator stated "None notable person. Article has already been flagged for non-notability since April 2007." If deleted, I would suggest salting to prevent spurious re-creation. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 15:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BIO. No assertion of notability through multiple secondary sources (or any sources cited whatsoever, for that matter). Can't be speedied since it (spuriously) survived a previous AfD, but it obviously fails to explain his importance TheBilly (talk) 15:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - the article does assert importance, when it says that he was the host of a television show and a presenter on another. matt91486 (talk) 18:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. His TV presenting roles have been on very minor shows with small audiences. The main problem is that having attempted to find some, there appears to be no significant secondary coverage whatsoever, which is essential if he is to have an article here.--Michig (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "Quizmania earned ITV over £1.2million during the first two weeks of transmission on ITV1." That's a quote from the article on one of his programs, which was sourced from the London Times. That's hardly trivial coverage of the program, so I don't think you can argue that it was a "very minor" show. matt91486 (talk) 00:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's about £100,000 per day, and if every viewer phoned in several times each time they watched the show, that could be about 30,000 viewers per show (each show running for a few hours), which makes it a very minor show. The Quizmania article includes this claim about the £1.2 million but doesn't provide a source, so it can hardly be relied on. In any case, it doesn't make Baldry notable.--Michig (talk) 09:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Television Game Shows has been informed of this ongoing discussion. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 04:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - certainly the person has notability, but not enough for it's own article. I'd merge into Quizmania.  Google News Search came up with nothing, and a general Google search pointed to very little...even his IMDB profile has very little information.  If IMDB has very little, I don't see how it can possibly qualify for an article here.  (Note: I'm not using that as a standard for including in the encyclopedia, I'm just pointing out that there's very little information out there on the guy.)  --Son (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete As mentioned above, clearly does not meet criteria for inclusion of WP:BIO.Teleomatic (talk) 00:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


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