Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Hunter (engineer)


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The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (t) (c) 01:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Lee Hunter (engineer)

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Just had a look at google, no reliable sources on the man. The odd blog breifly mentioning him. Article has been a stub class for quite a while, an orphan article, prose looks like it was taken from somewhere else. Article has no refs anyway.  RAIN the ONE  (Talk) 21:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment is not the hall of fame article listed in the article itself a source? Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 21:40, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG, WP:V, WP:BIO, and WP:RS. Whose Your Guy (talk) 21:46, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Granted, the article needs some work and sources but the subject is notable enough. Eddie.willers (talk) 22:44, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:02, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - contrary to nom's claim there are reliable sources including the Automobile Hall of Fame (http://www.automotivehalloffame.org/about.php). Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 18:50, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Just that one really. No mentions in big magazines or websites that focus on automotives... just the one there. Perhaps it those who are supporting the article could enquire to see what book mentions of him there are, then cite them. So one references isn't really good enough.. is it. Taking into account the below comment, that may be, but I think you'll find there are others in that hall of fame, of the same period that are better covered in books and the internet today... so the question is raised. RAIN the ONE  (Talk) 20:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment -- really? He is the founder of Hunter Engineering (http://www.hunterengineering.com/company/history/index.cfm)
 * a large privately held manufacturer that employs thousands of people and has revenues of hundreds of millions of dollars.::(http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/03/26/focus53.html) There is material about him on that firms website. ::Also, http://engineering.wustl.edu/brauerhall.aspx describes Hunter as having "revolutionized the automotive service ::industry." Seems a far cry from claims of "[t]he odd blog breifly(sic) mentioning him". Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 01:40, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment & Keep - The website you cited is that of a university which received funding from Lee Hunter, and, by their own admission, continues to receive financial support from Hunter Engineering Co. Any material that they publish about Lee Hunter or Hunter Engineering Co. fails WP:COI and is thereby inadmissible as evidence of notability. I agree that the auto Hall of Fame admission establishes notablity, so I recommend a cleaned-up Keep.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.251.93.154 (talk) 05:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Query -- okay, by that logic we should never use government publications as a source of notability for governmental figures, cause after all they are obviously subject to the same COI, no? Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 03:06, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - That is correct. A government publication about a government employee would only serve to establish facts, and not notability.  In the case of the University website, I would discount that as a source.  It is essentially a PR item as it is a profile of a person for which a building is named. -- Whpq (talk) 11:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - his period of activity falls into a period for which online records are still rather sparse so additional souring may be hard. But induction into the auto hall of fame establishes notability.  -- Whpq (talk) 19:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What is the auto industry's position on the Automotive Hall of Fame? Should entry into this hall of fame grant notability?-- Pink Bull  23:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Not that big a deal really. It's just a company, well more a charity that aim to give recognition to people who have done good in their trade... It's not like this is that notable, a merge into the list of people inducted into the hall of fame which is in the AHF's article anyway. The self serving references above are just that, they only act to back the odd fact up, if he was that famous he'd be in the books.. is he? RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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