Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee R. Berger


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy keep by means of unanimous vote; also note that nom has withdrawn. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 17:50, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Lee R. Berger

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Notability. Also self-promotion: almost every edit has been performed by the users "Profberger" and "Gladysvale" (the latter of which appears to be a sock puppet). Hux 10:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello Hux: My name is Prof. Lee Berger (profberger) and yes I have added recent edits as a matter of factual correction to the site above. I have also, during the course of adding sites that we have original data on to wikipedia - see my recent additions such as Gladysvale, Motsetse, Coopers cave, taung, plovers lake and others that fall under our institute. To correct you in your accusation of self-promotion, my assistant originally set up the site without my knowledge using data from my cv. Wikipedia then asked me to verify a release of copyright which I did. I had not used wikipedia until that time but became fascintated with the concept as I see it as an excellent way of sharing quality information and images which we hold copyright to. You may look at the sites listed above that I have done in the past couple of days and see what I was trying to do. In editing my own profile, I was trying to improve the quality of content (italics, spelling, incorrect dates etc.). Yes, my assistant did ask me to upload some images as references which I did as she was worried about the referencing policy. I apologize if this is seen as self-promotion rather than quality control, but this was not the intent. I think if you look at the sites and content that I am busy putting on, I am simply trying to put the history of South African paleoanthropology into Wikipedia and add valuable, clean verifiable content.

Regards,

Prof. Lee R. Berger

Profberger 10:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep However the article needs to be radically pruned to remove the unencyclopaediac, vanity content. But the nominator should also remember to assume good faith, and that while creating one's own page is not encouraged, it is not banned either. Recurring dreams 11:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Notability seems to be given, Google turns up newspaper articles about Berger's work and even his own TV series. Though I agree with Recurring dreams' comments about pruning it. --Huon 12:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep and cleanup. Desperately needs a trim (a scan of a Boy Scout certificate?!  What the hell?)  But subject is notable and passes WP:BIO easily. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  12:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Given the above, I withdraw the nomination - I was mistaken about the notability issue. (I'm still a little concerned about the self-promotion issue in general though, given the quality of most of the edits from those two user accounts.) -- Hux 13:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
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