Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Shi-min


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep ---  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  19:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Lee Shi-min

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Reads like advertising (as well as copyvio), and notability is questionable. Delete unless notability established (and also delete if established to be copyvio). --Nlu (talk) 04:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

KWongtawan (talk) 18:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC) Nlu: if you feel the article reads too much like advertising, you may edit-improve it accordingly. The quality of many other comtemporary artist articles extant on wiki is far below this one. Bream1 (talk) 06:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Lee Shi-min is a leading contemporary artist, especially well-known in mainland China, and originator of several notable artistic innovations.
 * keep I agree mostly with Hmains.
 * keep Notability is established by the contents of the article and the links provided.  Most bios read like 'mild advertising'; so what?  Edit improve articles, not waste our time such such feeble deletion nominations. Hmains (talk) 05:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Contemporary artists need to have seriously verifiable measures before being notable.  Utgard Loki (talk) 17:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Unable to find reliable sources, but he is widely mentioned. KnightLago (talk) 17:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability is asserted but not referenced. What major museums? External links just go to the main pages. Johnbod (talk) 22:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not pass WP:BIO. No work in major museums, no significant exhibitions, no major awards, no multiple third-party sources. There's an external link to MoMA, but a search of the museum site gives nothing: .--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 23:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I am presently compiling further substantive information on a number of contemporary artists including this one which will be added in due course. Kreisler (talk) 19:54, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep to allow time to gather more information. It would be worth revisting this article in 6 months to see if progress has been made on establishing reliable verification.  SilkTork  *YES! 23:44, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep per KWongtawan, Kreisler, and Hmains. Needs some better sourcing, and this can take time to collect. Note that reasons given for deletion are not proper grounds per se. "Reads like advertising" is a contant issue and is irrelevant to deletion. This nominator used almost identical language to nominate a whole series of Chinese contemporary artist articles. I spent quite a bit of time researching the first one, Wang Yi Guang, and came away (1) grateful that I was pointed to this art by this AfD, and (2) quite irritated that someone would want to delete that article. It completely impeached, for me, the credibility of this nominator; the canned, repetitive nature of the nominations reflects a lack of care. If Wang Yi Guang isn't notable, he should be! (But he is notable, and we have considerable reason to believe that Lee Shi-mina is as well.)--Abd (talk) 02:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


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