Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leesa and Laura Andrew

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 14:22, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Leesa and Laura Andrew
An email has been sent to the OTRS from the twins' mother, complaining about the veracity of this page (they never wen to that school, they never had a company etc.). E-mail is available on request. Google search does not come up with much about these two girls anyway. I therefore request its deletion. notafish }<';> 17:56, 8 May 2005 (UTC). I have in the meantime blanked the page, please see here for last version of the page.
 * Delete unless verified. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 18:57, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * A Google for +Lessa +Laura +Andrew doesn't seem to confirm any of this, as you'd think it would if they were noted New York socialites and all. Delete. Samaritan 19:41, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Not a vote, but you should have googled for Leesa, not Lessa, or "Andrew twins". Doing so doesn't reveal a huge amount online, but these pages stand out:, , and  - the final one does point to some sort of presence in New York nightlife. Lupin 23:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Oops, *slaps forehead.* Change to no vote yet. Thank you Lupin and Alai for catching that. Samaritan 01:45, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment/Question: Is this a "deletion for bad content", or for lack of notability?  On the latter, some google-grade research seems to suggest they're a couple of models that have appeared on Letterman, if that helps anyone calibrate.  Alai 22:28, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

What is the OTRS? And I really disagree wth deleting the content of an article while it's on VfD. RickK 04:05, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Me too. Grue 05:46, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * A ticket system used to process incoming requests and user feedback from people who don't understand how to use wikis. +sj +
 * Is it public? If so, where can I read it? Lupin 01:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
 * It's not, but I have pasted the exchange of emails on the talk page. As for deleting the article, I'll take full responsibility. You now have the full exchange of emails, it was my call, I stand by it. :-) notafish }<';> 00:44, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Why isn't it public, what is it's purpose and where is it described? How does one post to it and when is it appropriate? Lupin 01:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. These two are clearly notable in my book, but I'm an inclusionist.  I also think they're notable by current community standards, which is why I'm voting to keep the article.  Can we please restore the content of the article?   It's not a copyvio... +sj  +
 * Hey Sj dear...(and others above) ;) this is a wiki. If you want to restore it, do so :) notafish }<';> 00:44, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The mother of these girls is objecting to much of the article being wildly inaccurate, which I can well believe. I don't see why it should be deleted though. It simply needs to be corrected (or started from scratch if necessary). Lupin 01:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I am an inclusionist too. The twins are public figures. Literally speaking, the Class of 2002 included identical twins Laura and Leesa Andrew, 21, of Blackwood [| Camden Community College Communique June 2002 |]. What did they study?. Most of the information can be traced back to the Internet. The links are even included with the article. I don't see why it should be deleted. It simply needs to be corrected. The girls or mother should fix the page. They have expressed an interest in doing so via their mail the girls and I would be happy to post a "REAL & FACTUAL" page about them, ourselves, on your site. Liftoph 11:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's no content at the moment, anyhow. If there is an article being worked on, and they are notable, re-add later. But there's not even a useful stub at present. Whig 07:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I put the article back, removing facts I couldn't find a reference for and added a references section. Lupin 15:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Probably (minimally) notable, but article needs more information. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 21:06, 2005 May 13 (UTC)


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