Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Left Field Lounge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. , default to keep. At least it has sources, which is more than I can say for a lot of articles that come through here. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  05:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Left Field Lounge

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It's a yard, a grassy area, within the confines of Dudy Noble Field, Polk-DeMent Stadium at Mississippi State University and as such, should be included in the very same Dudy Noble Field, Polk-DeMent Stadium article, but not one of its own. - &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 03:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect - a lounge area? I don't see how it's notable. It should be merged to the correct article then redirected to it. --  American Eagle ( talk ) 04:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * CommentThe Left Field Lounge is unique and has its own history.  Bestselling author John Grisham has even written specifically about it: See http://www.leftfieldlounge.com/JG.html .  Also see: http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/out_in_left_field/ .  The LFL's "standing room only" policy and large capacity has helped Mississippi State set multiple college baseball attendance records, more than double the stadium's official capacity. It has also been named "The Best Place To Watch College Baseball" by Sports Illustrated.  Therefore this entry should not be deleted.  Allstarecho is a fan of MSU's rival school (U of Mississippi) and obviously is targeting Mississippi State wikipedia entries or targeting this entry that I have created because of a disagreement we have on another entry.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjmpb (talk • contribs) 01:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply: I'm not "targeting" anything. If the "Left Field Lounge's" claim to fame is a brief passage about it by John Grisham and a small article about in a once-a-week free metro-area "nightlife" "news" paper, then what about U of Mississippi's (Ole Miss) "The Grove", which has gotten extensive coverage by ESPN, CNN, BBC and many others? But yet, you don't see an article on Wikipedia about "The Grove" do you? In FACT, if there was a seperate article for the U of Mississippi's (Ole Miss) - which yes, I am a fan of - party yard known as "The Grove", I'd move for it to be deleted too because it would belong in the same article as Vaught-Hemingway Stadium, not an article of its own. So what makes Mississippi State's grassy area next to the baseball stadium so notable that it needs an article in an encyclopedia??? Nothing. Just like your rival "The Grove" isn't either. The fact is, whether it's Mississippi State's "Left Field Lounge" or U of Mississippi's "The Grove", they are just tailgating grass areas and should be included in the their respective stadium articles. My backyard of my house has seen one hell of a party if not 20 that would rival any tailgating party at "Left Field" or "The Grove" but it doesn't deserve an article on Wikipedia. Neither does MSU's grass or Ole Miss' grass. So don't try and sway the AfD by saying it's only because I'm a fan of your rival. Lawns don't deserve an article on their own, be it "Left Field" or "The Grove". - &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 03:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that you are calling it a lawn or grassy area tells me that you really don't know anything about it. MSU's Left Field Lounge is not "just a lounge" or "just a grassy area" or even "just a tailgating area".   It is packed with trucks/trailers/RV's, homebuilt stands, and monsterous grills.  The official capacity of MSU's baseball stadium is 6,500, but due to the LFL MSU has had as many as 14,991 fans attend a game (on-campus college baseball record crowd).  That's over 8,500 fans just in the LFL and more than the biggest-ever crowds at 98% of the college baseball schools in the country.  By the way, the Grove is unique and terrific and also deserves its own entry and not to be included with the stadium.  Anyone that has been there (or read the articles about it) could see that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjmpb (talk • contribs) 14:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * packed with trucks/trailers/RV's, homebuilt stands, and monsterous grills is nothing more than tailgating. A rose by any other name... - &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 17:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Wrong. You're talking generalizations that just do not apply to the Left Field Lounge.   There is no other place like it in college baseball (or professional baseball).   It appears that you are just being difficult because you are a fan of a rival school.   You ONLY nominated this LFL entry for deletion after our disagreement on the Egg Bowl entry (MSU-OM football rivalry).  You obviously looked up my ID and my contributions and saw that I created the LFL entry.       You are being petty, allstarecho. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjmpb (talk • contribs)
 * First, I'd advise you to layoff with the personal attacks. Secondly, go read WP:AGF. Thirdly, go read WP:NN. Fourthly, stop making this personal and stick to the issue at hand. - &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 22:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I should not have called you a jealous college-baseball-ignorant Rebel and have edited it out, but "I" did not make this issue personal. You did.  I created this entry a long time ago and you just now nominated it for deletion after our disagreement on another entry.  I think the evidence and timing show your actions qualify as personal even under the good faith criteria.

Either way, I can get past your personal rivalry issues. I have given information and references demonstrating that the Left Field Lounge is notable as its own entry and will give more if necessary. Its unique history, its unique attributes, the sheer magnitude of attendance/capacity/use relative to the rest of the entire college baseball world, an article by a noted author and independent regional and national journalists, and "awards" such as "best place to watch college baseball" and "100 things to do before you graduate" by national sports publications should be enough for the Left Field Lounge to stand on its own.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.