Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Legend of the Green Dragon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep (nomination withdrawn). howcheng  [ t &#149; c &#149; w &#149;  e  ] 22:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Legend of the Green Dragon
Nonnotable fantasy CRPG; about 230 players worldwide (according to the server statistics; there might be other players on other servers as well). I'm sure a lot of effort went in to making the game, and if the article is deleted I encourage them to come back and create an article again after their game becomes popular and notable. I'll even help edit it. But as it stands now this is basically a vanity article for an unknown game. Withdrawing AfD Nandesuka 05:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep, though I may be partial as I'm one of the major authors of the article. Just noting some small facts: "there might be other players" is probably a gross understatement as there's dozens of servers, a fact which alone could be considered some sort of indication of its popularity. The busiest servers seem to have 100-200 users online at peak times, which is (at least so I've noted) pretty much for a MUD-like environment. Plus, do we even have notability criteria for online games, anyway? Especially MUD-like systems? By the way, I'd be very interested to know how you pulled the 230 player figure, I'm not sure how to get the server to report that, anyway. =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 07:25, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Amending this vote a little bit: If the vote goes for removal on grounds of notability, may I suggest we Merge something to Legend of the Red Dragon instead, for example, by expanding the definition. LotGD is heck of a more complex game than LoRD though, which may make the article look very silly. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 07:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Further comments: Ngh, I'd really like to know how to come up with the player statistics. The only statistic I could find was the central server forum, which has 1851 members (and I'd make a careful educated guess and say only a fraction of everyone who plays posts there). And before you toss Alexa or WP:WEB at me, remember that this isn't a web site, it's an online game, for which there should be a notability criteria of some sort. Played by a huge number of open-source hippies who use Firefox and don't subscribe to Alexa spyware, too. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 07:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Objection! The witness seems to be disparaging Firefox users. Request the statement be withdrawn. &#9678;DanMS 16:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Note': I'm totally and utterly contesting the user figure the nominator says, now that I found a reliable way of finding the user statistics Here's a hint: Log in. Hit "List warriors". Browse around in awe. Currently says something like "Warriors of the realm (Page 118: 5851-5888 of 5888)" Characters get purged after 30 days of inactivity, so I guess that's a rather good indication of how many active users there are. I'm completely puzzled on how the nominator got to the 230 player figure! Now start adding the users from the other popular LotGD servers. Active enough of a player community to be considered notable, I ask? --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 07:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I embarassingly misread the statistics here, mistaking pages for users. Doh.  Consider this AfD withdrawn. Nandesuka 12:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * As the nominator has withdrawn this, could an admin please close it before the AFD-horde arrive and try to colonise it ? SpeedyKeep --SockpuppetSamuelson 14:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.