Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leib Groner


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 03:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Leib Groner

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Groner is mostly known as having been the secretary of Menachem Mendel Schneerson, but notability is not inherited. The only reason for recent coverage is his death due to the coronavirus pandemic. Fails GNG and WP:SIGCOV on his own. — JFG talk 09:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment There is also the section about his political activities. It is a small, but adds to his notability. Debresser (talk) 13:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment He's been the subject of many profiles in New York Times, New York Magazine and others. Issue here is that nothing particularly recent has been quoted in the Wiki page. &#124; MK17b &#124;   (talk)  00:53, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
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Williamsdoritios (talk) 05:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The article also mentions that he was a lecturer. As a matter of fact, he was an avid lecturer, speaking on many occasions in locations all over the world. That is something that the article should stress more, IMHO, and add some sources about. Debresser (talk) 10:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The fact that he was the secretary of the Lubavitcher Rebbe does not per definition make him notable, but on the other hand that doesn't mean that he can not be notable in his own right as being the secretary of the Lubavitcher Rebbe. In this case his notability is a result of the combination of the following things, which together make the case for his notability (per WP:BASIC): 1. over 40 years being the secretary of the Lubavitcher Rebbe 2. being somebody who traveled the world during almost 25 years after the Lubavitcher Rebbe's demise, telling stories about him and in general being a lecturer on Judaism. 3. having had a certain role in various political campaigns. Debresser (talk) 10:02, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Aside from profiles mentioned earlier, Rabbinical Alliance of America's statement upon his passing described him as "one of the most prominent figures in Lubavitch of the last generation". &#124; MK17b &#124;   (talk) 21:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly notable.
 * Snow Keep - notable per the above comments. 2604:2000:E010:1100:D4FE:9872:535D:AC7D (talk) 19:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


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