Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leisure in Póvoa de Varzim


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The result was   redirected to main article by the original author per suggestions here. Thryduulf (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Leisure in Póvoa de Varzim

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Fails WP:NOTTRAVEL. This page is a travel guide. Póvoa de Varzim exists and this page should be deleted with a redirect to that page which coveys the factual description of the same area. Ash (talk) 10:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * the article was not really intended to be like a travel guide or tourism article, but part of a series on CITY articles, although it does sound like that in particular phrases, but if you read carefully without prejudice ("yet another place wanting to promote itself for tourism").


 * it is a STUB about gambling, beaches, one pedestrian shopping street (there are others), these are very relevant parts of the city. Although these three things can be really touristy, but that's just a coincidence. For instance, surfing is part of the city's way-of-live, not really seen a lot by tourists, because in the summer is fades away. the same for the beaches, until recently the city had no urban park, so people use beaches for dating, reading, resting and such.


 * And in time I may create an article about tourism in the city. The city is touristy since the 18th century, and is one of the earliest tourism places, it is popular especially amonsgt Portuguese and French, but also Spanish. the article is not good, but it is not a travel guide, and i was never interested in attracting tourists, it is already too popular. And maybe the reason why it sounds touristy. The article can be used for an article tourism in Póvoa de Varzim, there are many articles on tourism, see Tourism in New York City. but it is not really a priority for me.

I'm not against its deletion or redirect though because it is an article that now doesnt makes sence with the current layout of the main article, that now is organized like this: 4 Culture and contemporary life * 4.1 Entertainment and performing arts * 4.2 Museums * 4.3 Literature * 4.4 Cuisine * 4.5 Sports * 4.6 Media * 4.7 Festivals Beaches are now on 3 Cityscape * 3.1 Beaches and parks * 3.2 Countryside so. Go for it. No problems or issues, no info will be lost.-Pedro (talk) 12:40, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge into Póvoa de Varzim as per Ash's suggestion. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Are you seriously comparing tourism in Póvoa de Varzim with tourism in New York? One of the things that NYC is notable for is its tourist attractions - Póvoa de Varzim is nowhere near that league! Sorry, I just had to say something - not being personal or anything, but it seemed a strange comparison. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * friend, i'm not comparing anything, that was really a nonsensical comment, it was just an article that i stomped into, could be Burkina Faso too. Just saying that there are articles on tourism. Povoa has also tourism in that counts in millions per year, if counting nationals and foreigns, but there's no official data, because that would be very complex to gather. Last saturday the city counted half a million in that day only. You have to see that not everybody lives in your world, and your culture, and many of the NYC stuff are blur to me too, not everybody watches hollywood movies propraganda you know. Povoa is the same type of tourist place like Biarritz and Nice, it developed at the same time and with the same reasons. i'll update the article of Povoa to add its tourism history, like in the Portuguese article. -Pedro (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Pedro, I must apologise - I did not mean to be (what's the word... ) West-orientated! However, I think if you went to most places in the world and asked "have you heard of New York City" and "Have you heard of Póvoa de Varzim", a lot less would have heard of the latter!
 * I think that the best solution to this is what you have suggested, if I read your comment correctly - merging the information from this article into the main article. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me,  My Contribs ) 16:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Povoa is also western. You were US-oriented. I can do a redirect. The information from this article is irrelevant to the main article. I'll do that. done -Pedro (talk) 19:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  01:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.