Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lemi Ponifasio


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) &mdash; Music1201  talk  20:21, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Lemi Ponifasio

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Does not appear to pass the notability requirements for living persons WP:MUSICBIO and WP:NBIO. Previously proposed for deletion Ajf773 (talk) 07:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * When you removed the PROD, you provided the following edit summary: "Removing prof--coverage in NYT, Guardian, New Zealand Herald, many more". New York Times, Guardian, and NZ Herald aren't in the list of references. If they were, notability would be a lot clearer. Would you mind adding those references for clarity?  Schwede 66  09:02, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Thanks for the ping user:Schwede66. Yes, here are some of the sources:
 * The Guardian's 2014 review from the Edinburgh Festival
 * The New York Times's coverage of his company at Brooklyn Academy of Music
 * Radio New Zealand piece about his selection to represent UNESCO's International Dance Day
 * New Zealand Herald substantial profile
 * Globe and Mail piece about a collaboration with Laurie Anderson
 * And there really are many more, in many languages. I just got them from Google News (and indeed, had already noted them in the edit history). I just want to be sure you are aware of WP:BEFORE; to me the instructions to check Google News and the entry's edit history would've both precluded this entry's nomination for AfD in the first place, since they indicate the substantial coverage of this subject. Thanks. Innisfree987 (talk) 15:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Update to say I've begun work on improving the article, and added five references so far (inline, from reliable sources, etc.) The page still has flaws but I hope these changes make more plainly evident that notability is not among the problems. Innisfree987 (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep NZ Herald article supports that he meets WP:ARTIST.  Schwede 66  23:03, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of good quality press coverage to establish notability. Also another Guardian article and one behind a paywall in The Times, 19 Aug, 2014. Good coverage in French press too, like.
 * Keep. As the editor who nominated the AFD I did so on the grounds that it didn't meet the notability requirements 'at the time' after a PROD which remained for ten days without before it was de-proded. I also could not find the same sources that Innisfree987 managed to provide and include in the article. Nevertheless the article has been improved to the point I am satisfied that it reaches notability status. Happy for anyone to close the AFD sooner if it is possible. Ajf773 (talk) 10:41, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Ajf773, if you like, here are the instructions for withdrawing a nomination: WP:WDAFD. Technically I think this now qualifies for a speedy keep either way but putting the withdrawn note up top spares folks from reading through and possibly spending time re-checking sources before they get to your keep vote. Innisfree987 (talk) 13:57, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


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