Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lena Michaëlis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  21:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Lena Michaëlis

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A non-notable Olympic competitor. She was not even close to medaling. We lack any sources providing significant coverage. A search for sources turns up more recent businesspeople with the same name, who though not notable are as likely or more likely to be searched for so there is no reason to have this person as the designated redirect for this name. John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:18, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women,  and Netherlands. Shellwood (talk) 21:10, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I looks like the Dutch Wikipedia has four refs that appear to be RS. Best, GPL93 (talk) 21:55, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It also says she ranked 7th at the Olympics. WP:NATH guides us towards considering anyone in the top 12 at an Olympic event to be likely to be notable, which Dutch Wikipedia (I don't speak Dutch, I'm assuming good faith) appears to back up. So maybe I'm wrong, but that does suggest we should keep to me. CT55555 (talk) 03:32, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Lean towards keep per the above two comments, but failing that redirect to Athletics at the 1928 Summer Olympics – Women's discus throw per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R and WP:CHEAP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:32, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: National record-holder. Can be expanded from the Dutch. Pam  D  12:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems to more or less meet WP:NATH 2, 4 & 7. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:08, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as she was, presumably, a national champion. pburka (talk) 23:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NATH and WP:SIGCOV. It is unclear why this article was nominated. All texts in the intro are either incorrect OR irrelevant. Also, Michaëlis is a historical figure. There is absolutely no WP:BLP concern.
 * Nlwiki has been used to expand the article. User:PamD, I recommend not to insert expand templates pointing at Nlwiki as the Dutch Wikipedia is the absolute worst larger Wikipedia and every "fact" there needs to be individually verified. It's a failed Wikipedia. Our article, Dutch Wikipedia, explains in detail why in the Quality and Culture sections. I'm in the process of verifying all the data. Others might not know how bad it is. When you glance at it, it does look like a Wikipedia.
 * Finally: User:CT55555, she ended 11th in the world, still within the top 12 but not quite 7th. gidonb (talk) 00:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep per NATH. She is a national record holder and a top 12 Olympic competitor, and enough reliable sources to meet GNG.Jacona (talk) 13:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: As per above. Lena is a national record holder and passes WP:GNG. MickyShy (talk) 11:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


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