Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leo Törnqvist


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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 05:05, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Leo Törnqvist

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Subject does not appear to be sufficiently notable, seeming to fail to meet the criteria of WP:BIO and WP:ACADEMIC.

He does come close to meeting #1 of ACADEMIC, but it appears that Tornqvist indexes have not had sufficient impact. He does also come close to meeting a broad definition of #2, having an award named after him, but not awarded to him. However, this award does not seem to "highly prestigious" within Finland, and it is not so internationally, and so again it seems he does not qualify.

Neither of the two provided independent sources covering Tornqvist are substantial, with one of them being an obituary. However, the other source is a Swedish encyclopedia dedicated to correcting the under-representation of Finnish history within world encyclopedias, so it is possible that the individual is sufficiently notable in Scandinavia to warrant inclusion.

A search for additional sources that would affirm notability do not provide anything, but I have been unable to comprehensively review Swedish or Finnish sources due to an inability to read Swedish or Finnish. BilledMammal (talk) 04:50, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment Found a little more coverage. This book describes the subject's contributions to population forecasting. This indicates that he was elected a fellow of The Econometric Society (not sure if this rises to the level of meeting WP:PROF). The reference here indicates that the subject was known as "the grandfather of Finnish statistics", but I don't see the subject described that way in other sources. Larry Hockett (Talk) 05:22, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Törnqvist created a method used to construct widely cited price indexes around the world. Independent of that, he taught Linux Torvalds to program. The nomination for deletion is absurd. I recommend WP:Speedy keep, because deletion discussions are pretty painful. - econterms (talk) 05:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Unfortunately, while the Törnqvist equation is used somewhat widely, it doesn't seem like the "independent reliable sources" showing it to have "significant impact" exist. As for Linus, while an interesting piece of trivia I don't think it is sufficient to make Tornqvist independently notable? BilledMammal (talk) 06:35, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. Entries on him in Uppslagsverket Finland and Suomen kansallisbiografia are enough. (Either one of them alone might be enough.) —David Eppstein (talk) 06:04, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - I considered those entries before making the AFD, but I don't think they meet the requirement for "significant coverage", given their extreme brevity. BilledMammal (talk) 06:29, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If you translate the Suomen kansallisbiografia you will discover that what you actually see there is a brief summary, that the full text is 5360 characters long, and that the full text of the article is available to subscribers. I also found a reference to a 14-page article about the subject, but not the article itself. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't think to look at the 'metadata' below. Between five hundred and a thousand words words is better than what I thought it was. I tried to access the document myself, but unsurprisingly I was unable to find a copy of a Finnish Biographical Encyclopedia over here. BilledMammal (talk) 06:44, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't appear to have access to it either but fortunately the information we're using from it can be found in the summary. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:26, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Here's the Kansallisbiografia entry for free: 85.76.3.10 (talk) 12:39, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Works for me — thanks! —David Eppstein (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. In addition to good arguments made above, the article introducing the Törnqvist index has been cited 800+ times according to GS.  With at least one other highly cited articles that shows up in the default GS search, this supports a pass of WP:NPROF C1. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 07:11, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Enough sources to establish notability. Pavlor (talk) 15:51, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


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