Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leo the Lion (British singer)


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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator, no other arguments in favor of deletion, &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 16:15, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Leo the Lion (British singer)

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Seems like a fairly obvious candidate for being redirected to The Streets as only ref is unreliable. Laun chba  ller  18:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Article about artist does NOT seem like an obvious candidate for redirect to one group that the artist participated in.  Article notes that artist is notable for contributing to song "Nite Nite", separate from that group.  Another wikipedia article states that the single "hit #25 in the UK charts, spending six weeks altogether on the top 75.".  Redirecting seems inappropriate.  Calling for improvement of sources by tagging for improvement of sources would be acceptable.  No justification for AFD.  No assertion of wp:BEFORE being met.  I am skeptical of the nomination, seems to call for wasting editor attention when mere tagging would be better. -- do  ncr  am  05:46, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I forgot to add "and contains no other indication of notability". This is why I tag for AfD first - they can always be withdrawn, and it helps unearth stuff like this. I would argue that if Kano_(rapper) is to be believed, as the Streets were also on that record, he still hasn't had a hit single without them.-- Laun  chba  ller  11:00, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, nominator further now saying that the article "contains no other indication of notability" does not mean wp:BEFORE was met. Nom has not asserted they did any searching at all.  Please understand that it is basic to Wikipedia that an article does NOT require any sources at all.  AFD is not for cleanup.  Noting that an article does not include great sources yet, is not a valid argument for deletion, when the topic is notable.
 * Also, specifically there is assertion in the present article that there is independent significant career of this artist, which is an indication of notability separate from The Streets, so I simply do not agree that the article "contains no other indication of notability". It does.
 * However, I do agree that the linked passage in Kano (rapper) article does seem to somewhat contradict this current article. It is not clear what to believe from the two Wikipedia articles.  However, in the current article, to me it seems that the "Solo career" section with its statement "Leo left The Streets so he could join Love Island and has collaborated with Kano on the single "Nite Nite" which became one of the most played videos on MTV that year" is a stronger assertion that Leo the Lion has an independent solo career of importance.  I tend to believe that assertion more, rather than the Kano article on the point, as it seems more likely that editing in the Kano article could have been a tad imprecise, sort of in explaining who Leo the Lion is as relating him to The Streets, while perhaps being technically wrong if then implying that there was not independence at the time.  Honestly this is speculation, i don't know the facts, nor does the nominator.  Again, notability is asserted, and I think it better to cancel this AFD, tag the article instead, and return in 6 months or a year, instead of continuing here. -- do  ncr  am  15:24, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn, but which tag should be used?-- Laun  chba  ller  15:32, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For a specific assertion in the article that is questionable, i find note somewhere: "If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, you can tag a sentence with the citation needed."  For other suggestions, see wp:CTT.  Perhaps BLP sources section in a specific section, or overall BLP sources for the article? -- do  ncr  am  16:03, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment, nominator has withdrawn by comment above, and there are no other deletion-supporters, so this could/should be closed Keep by anyone. -- do ncr  am  16:03, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


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