Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leon Qafzezi


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Leon Qafzezi

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Unsourced BLP, can't find any secondary sources. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:48, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete; fails WP:BIO. Even LexisNexis has nothing on this chap. Ironholds (talk) 19:45, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article is not unsourced, as it has references to a newspaper and an encyclopedia. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It is worth pointing out, however, that an encyclopaedia does not constitute a secondary source. I appreciate your point, though :P. Ironholds (talk) 23:06, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, but even if unsuitable for sourcing notability, policy explains how "Some tertiary sources may be more reliable than others, and within any given tertiary source, some articles may be more reliable than others." Of course, and though I have no idea how reliable the Albanian Enciklopedi e Kinematografise Shqiptare might be, a tertiary source "may be used to give overviews or summaries, but should not be used in place of secondary sources for detailed discussion". In the Leon Qafzezi article, it seems to be used for verification, not for detailed discussion.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 11:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep He is an important figure in Albanian cinema, journalism, and an important writer. All it needs is a cleanup.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 02:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you provide any sources allowing him to pass the relevant guidelines? Ironholds (talk) 02:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure wish we had an Albanian online with access to Albanian libraries and hardcopy sources. The number of book results brought up are suggestive that Gaius Claudius Nero's opinion may have merit.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 11:33, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Seven of the ten on the first page are by a vanity press company and follow the same format - and I note the first of those gives Wikipedia as a source. Definitely unreliable. The others may be, but I can't preview them, so I have no way of seeing what they're about, the coverage they give, so on. Ironholds (talk) 12:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood. I cannot access them either, nor do I read Albanian.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 15:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The Albanian books are published by one of the most respectable Albanian printing presses (Toena). I do not have access to them either, but then again, how many Albanian books can one have access to online? (I understand Albanian by the way.)--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

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