Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leon ousby


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. If anyone wants the content userfied they can ask me. Stifle (talk) 11:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Leon ousby

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Completely unsourced bio of "award winning" actor. Declined speedy. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  19:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  19:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, me smells some falsehoods here mixed with a bit of spam. Only 113 GHits for the name, and most aren't for this person. Seriously doubt a Broadway performer would be so unheard of. Collectonian (talk) 19:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete while ghits are not the be-all and end-all this person's work should be garnering some web-based attention, it isn't. I don't think it's a hoax, just rather enhanced. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 19:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, smells like yet-another-hoax coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  20:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Debate I think the problems with new entries/articles is that as much as these features hold certain truths, there simply isn't enough time to create and gather further sources to place in the article before users are nominating them for deletion.. even when 'Under Construction' is placed on the page. I have recently had articles deleted and yet again this seems to be another forum for people to delete/edit and sabotage information gathered. I assume a lot of people are disheartened and left to simply not contribute to this site. I have noticed a lot of articles up for deletion. It all seems a waste of the contributors time and energy. orson20 09:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Hopefully the updated article will convince you. I am still awaiting some other source and references orson20 13:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.201.64.90 (talk)
 * How? No references have been added at all, and minor, unconfirmed awards are not evidence of notability. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 13:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Orson20, what do you mean when you say you are "awaiting some source and references"? I see people saying similar things in these deletion debates and I'm never clear where these references are coming from. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 13:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

*Delete as you guys have said.. just delete it.. this forum seems childish.. >orson20 14.57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My question above was serious - I'm honestly curious why people say they are "waiting for sources". In your case, where are they coming from? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * They're coming from Western Australia. I know that the Alexander Library in Perth holds (Not a great deal) several references on this Actor. >orson20 15:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.201.64.90 (talk)


 * Userfy. Orson has a valid point about deleting new articles too quickly, particularly when they are being actively worked on. There is also the point that an Australian stage actor may be a lot more notable in Australia than in the US, and that Googling may not be the best test in this case. That being said, there is the problem of it being an article about a living person. These articles are held to a significantly higher standard of sourcing. Would it be possible to move this article into Orson's area until such time as he can get the proper references? --AnnaFrance (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. As I don't know how long references are going to take. Maybe it would worthwhile moving the article. I am a little cofused as I have read through the site's policies and I am seeing articles on BLPs that don't contain cites or refs. I do agree with AnnaFrance with respect to Australian stage actors/actor. Googling isn't always the most reliable source, test or evidence for notability. orson20 14:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Orson, you have now said Keep twice, debate once, and delete once. You need to either strike your earlier three, or combine your comments into a threaded set of comments with a single "Keep" or "Delete". -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 14:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, totally unsourced bio. WP:BLP.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC).


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