Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger (activist)


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The result was keep. With the suggestion of renaming the article or making it about the event instead.  So Why  13:18, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Les Balsiger (activist)
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Really known only for the 1993 incident, and is therefore a classic example of failing WP:BLP1E. The other references do not provide significant coverage of Balsiger himself. StAnselm (talk) 04:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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 * I wonder if there is a possible target for a redirect?E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. For one thing, Notability is not temporary.   It is sourced.  There was a significant event--the protests of this person--and the article covers that, at an article title focussing on the person.  If there was a separate article focusing on the event, then the BLP1E reasoning would apply to say that we don't need an article focusing on the person involved.  But there is not duplication.  Okay if someone wants to move/re-title it, but the name of the person seems best currently.  And, Wikipedia is good for providing reference information on obscure persons, events, like this. -- do  ncr  am  17:00, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Your comment prompted me to remark that what I had in mind was something like an article about The concept of the Antichrist in contemporary Christian fringe movements, then I thought: maybe that article already exists. Looked.  Found Antichrist, with a section on Seventh Day Adventists, which puts this in the proper context.  Linking the articles, and changing my iVoting  Keep  as per User:doncram's persuasive argument.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 03:29, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to something along the lines of Anti-Catholic billboards of 1993, to fit WP:ONEEVENT. None of the linked sources focus on Balsiger, instead focusing on the billboard controversy in particular, and I see no evidence he on his own has the coverage necessary to pass WP:GNG. I say merge instead of delete so the good work building research and content isn't lost. Yvarta (talk) 19:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that amounts to a "Keep" vote, with suggestion of "move" to another title, because you cannot "merge" to a non-existent article. If/when this is closed, I would support a move, too, to be pursued probably by a wp:RM discussion at the Talk page. -- do  ncr  am  16:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


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