Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lesbian-identified


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Lesbian.  MBisanz  talk 03:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Lesbian-identified

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Seems to be some question as to whether this article should be redirected to Lesbian or left as its own article. To me, this is somewhere around the original research realm, with perhaps a bit of WP:FORK and/or WP:NEOLOGISM thrown in. Thoughts? SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of LGBT related deletions. Totnesmartin (talk) 11:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * delete The term is too closely linked to lesbian to appear as a different article. It could be merged if its notability can be established, but I tend to agree that it is NEOLOGISM 06:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrathel (talk • contribs)
 * Comment - I'm unfamiliar with this particular term, but expressions like 'female-identified' and 'woman-identified' are reasonably common and established within the fields of gender studies and queer theory. I'm not sure that WP:NEO objections help us one way or the other without more detail. What I'd like to know is (a) is this term well-defined, and (b) is it sufficiently distinct from lesbian (or any other gender/sexuality related term we may already have an article on) to require its own article? AlexTiefling (talk) 10:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * sMerge - While I feel the term is fairly well established in non-academic circles (I'm recalling a "lesbian-identified" man on The L Word), I don't see enough here for a stand alone article. The distinction between someone who "is" a lesbian and someone who "identifies" as a lesbian is a matter of outlook, similar to religious bodies that others may or may not consider cults/Christian/New Age/whatever and bodies that self-identify with those same terms. Merge the (limited) cited material to Lesbian. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:14, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge, I agree with SummerPhD. This is a reasonable term and it's definitely used, but I can't quite see how we can make an article about it. This topic would make a worthwhile paragraph in Lesbian, but without a lot more sourceable information about Lesbian-identification in particular I think most readers would be better-served reading this in the context of the main article. ~ mazca  t 18:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per SummerPhD and Mazca arguments.--Boffob (talk) 20:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - or merge - it has two references and much potential. Bearian (talk) 22:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - there appear to be reliable sources in addition to those noted in the article that discuss the concept of being "lesbian-identified" rather than "lesbian," controversy that lesbian-identification has engendered (heh) in some aspects of the lesbian community, etc. The article is not in great shape but that's an editing concern. Otto4711 (talk) 00:03, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean up, sourcing should be encouraged to clear up OR concerns.  -- Banj e  b oi   11:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The sourcing would definitely need to be cleaned up. One of the references was just an unrelated blog post. One of the comments on that post quoted from this Wikipedia article to define the term. So the article was essentially using itself as a reference. 140.247.249.98 (talk) 16:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment My delete is not eactly accurate. I too believe that this is a topic worth discussing, but there is not enough of a difference betwee Lesbian-Identified and lesbian to warrent a seperate article. The definition of one seems implicit in the other, and the research on the topic seems inadequate to make it a study independent of lesbianism.Mrathel (talk) 17:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Lesbian. Sounds like hairsplitting to me. Squidfryerchef (talk) 02:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Lesbian. Definitely different than the term Lesbian itself. A paragraph should be added to the Lesbian article discussing Lesbian-identified people. --Russ is the sex (talk) 05:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


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