Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leslie Cockburn


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The result was keep. Yunshui 雲 水 15:49, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Leslie Cockburn

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Per WP:POLOUTCOMES and WP:NPOL. She is a candidate for office who hasn't yet won an election. There is a lot of information on this page about her journalistic career, but the sourcing doesn't pan out. Various claims are made here about how her reporting caused things to happen, but the given sourcing doesn't even mention Cockburn. If this article is pared down to information that is actually verified by sources, it would be a lot shorter, and fail WP:NPOL. Marquardtika (talk) 16:13, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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 *  Comment Keep - While she definetly doesn't pass WP:NPOL, the article has been up for over 10 years as a result of her journalism career. WP:JOURNALIST and WP:GNG should probably be what is looked at not just NPOL. I don't know enough about journalism to determine if the several awards she has won or her contributions are enough to pass. But her recent nomination for office shouldn't be the sole focus of the afD. WikiVirusC (talk) 17:48, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a good point. My issue is that in digging into the references about her journalism career, she is not even mentioned in almost any of them. The majority of the article fails verification, big-time, and seems to have been written either by the article subject or someone with a close connection to the article subject. I know that's not in and of itself a reason to delete, but I think there are significant issues here and questionable notability (with whatever notability guideline we apply) since hardly any of the content is in fact verified by the sources. Marquardtika (talk) 18:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I definitely agree that some of the claims of the impact of her works need to be sourced better to be verified, or reworded to have a better POV. Either way that does need to be fixed. Aside from the awards she has won listed in the article, I have also found that she has won two News & Documentary Emmy Awards/ . Included with others, she has won journalism awards in 80s, 90s, and 2000s, so as of right now I'm leaning towards a keep, but was gonna do a bit more research into her contributions, as some of the info out there is over 30 years old, and some sources will take more effort than I have right now to find. WikiVirusC (talk) 19:31, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - I agree there are issues with the page, but the individual seems like a suitable subject for an encyclopedia page based on her journalism career. Her lede should really focus on that and I'm not sure if accusations of anti-semitism are a BLP issue, but on first glance putting them in the lede does not seem balanced. Smmurphy(Talk) 20:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep The Emmys satisfy ANYBIO, no? That she’s also running for office is certainly not disqualifying of other means of passing. Innisfree987 (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep A candidate article largely about her journalist career: and multiple C-SPAN appearances as an author:  I haven't gone deeper and a lot of the early before hits are about her campaign, but ignoring her candidacy it seems fairly clear she seems like she'd likely pass WP:GNG for her journalism. SportingFlyer  talk  18:11, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 *  Strong Keep I improved this article by improving the sourcing, adding some information, and trimming it down in places. Even if you ignore her candidacy, WP:ANYBIO says a person may be notable if "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times." A documentary she produced won an Emmy, and others have been nominated for Emmys. WP:JOURNALIST says a journalist may be notable if "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work" or if their work "has won significant critical attention." I think both apply here because she's produced multiple investigative news documentaries that have received significant positive press in national newspapers over the course of years. Lonehexagon (talk) 01:38, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Lonehexagon, thank you for your massive improvements to this article. I think that the Emmy does meet ANYBIO. It seems like she's notable for the journalistic career, not the congressional candidacy. The page was just so very bad it was hard to wade through it. Anyway, since no one else has supported deletion and since I no longer do, someone can come along and close this as "keep." Marquardtika (talk) 01:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep She's definitely notable as a journalist if not politician. Clear GNG pass here. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 02:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Cockburn's documentary Yuri the Great which aired on 60 Minutes in October 1998 won an Emmy, which makes her pass wp:anybio #1. Zingarese (talk) 02:50, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Was notable before her political candidacy, for journalism career and for the awards she has received in that field, per WP:ANYBIO. -LtNOWIS (talk) 14:06, 10 June 2018 (UTC)


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