Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leslie Garza Rivera


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The result was   speedy delete. delete per author request at talkpage Elonka 04:31, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Leslie Garza Rivera

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Mexican actress with no notable roles. It's possible her "Detective Privado" role is, but I couldn't find sources supporting notability, even in Spanish. As far as I can tell, fails WP:ENTERTAINER. gnfnrf (talk) 04:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Her roles are notable, being the the lead on 13 episodes and having over 16 credits at IMDB.com is more than notable enough, please unflag this article she is a well established actress.


 * She is also the lead in Hoochie Mama drama, on sale here, http://www.amazon.com/Hoochie-Mama-Drama-Deadlee/dp/B001D11A4U, that is her in the picture pulling the girls hair, also here, http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Hoochie_Mamma_Drama/70108310 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Churroboy (talk • contribs) 04:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)  — Churroboy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Advertisement, or pages to buy products, do not establish notability &eta;oian   &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  04:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * True, so does having numerous credits on IMDB not establish notability either? Must one win an award or be special in their case, as to not be a typical actor? I assume not everyone on IMDB can be on Wikipedia correct? As they must have established some sort of significant difference from the others correct? Can you list a few clear examples of which actors are Wikipedia worthy and some that arent? Please check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perla_Haney-Jardine and explain why she is Wikipedia worthy and Leslie Garza is not. I just want to have a clear understanding so forgive me if it seems Im trying to be pushy which I am not, I am just not as experienced on Wikipedia yet, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Churroboy (talk • contribs) 01:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There are clear guidelines for what qualifies an actor as notable at WP:ENTERTAINER. The usual way of demonstrating notability is "significant roles in multiple notable films, television..."  Number of IMDB credits doesn't help demonstrate this, because the films may not be notable, and the roles may not be notable.  What is important is how significant the roles were (would a reviewer take note of the particular actor?) and how notable the productions were (which has its own guidelines, at WP:MOVIE).  Of course, WP:BIO covers all people with the standard "substantive coverage in multiple third party reliable sources," regardless of film or TV credits.
 * As for Perla Haney-Jardine, be aware of the fallacies of the "other stuff exists" argument, which isn't generally accepted at AfD. If you find another article that should be deleted, that means the other article should be deleted, not that this article should be kept.  However, the fact that Ms. Haney-Jardine costarred in Anywhere, U.S.A., which won an award at a major film festival, and had a significant supporting role in Dark Water (2005 film), which had a major international release and was reviewed by multiple nationally published critics, tends to lead me to think she satisfies WP:ENTERTAINER. gnfnrf (talk) 04:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: As a background issue, it is worth noting that there is probably some conflict of interest here. I'm assuming User:Churroboy is, in real life, Clint Nitkiewicz Hernández and has been creating a number of pages related to his company . Churroboy has created a couple pages recently that have been speedily deleted due to lack of notability: one for the aforementioned company, one for a movie related to the company, and one for this actress who is linked on the company's web site. &mdash;Noah 05:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification Gnfnrf, I looked up MOVIE for the first time and the other notability links you included and thus you proved your point. Feel free to delete Leslie Garza Rivera immediately. Although she was the lead on her show "Detective Privado", the awards and other facts mentioned on the notability pages do indeed conclude she is not yet notable to be included on Wikipedia. I was the original author and accept that she be taken down immediately, perhaps put up at a later time when she is notable or part of a notable film. As for Noah's claim that churroboy is Clint Nitkiewicz Hernandez, which is an absurd and false claim. just because churroboy created a page on a film by Clint Nitkiewicz Hernandez which he felt was notable, and attempted to institute a non notable actress, Leslie, aside from the already notable actors Kid Frost, Deadlee, and attempted to create a wiki article on the production company of Clint Nitkiewicz Hernandez to give more background to One Story (film). To sum up, please delete Leslie Garza Rivera, and sorry for trying to create a page on New Element Productions, I hope to learn from this and participate more in the editing and contributing to Wikipedia in many other knowledgeable topics which I feel are important to the community, thank you. Please do not flag me or ban me as these few entries I intended on sharing with the world were not of notable characteristics and it will not happen again. As for One Story (film), I felt it notable due to many facts not mentioned in the article, but there are no 3rd party articles on this, so I will hold off on this article, I requested that One Story (film) be deleted immediately since the guidelines are clear, I will in the meantime gather notable articles and wait to repost it at a later time, perhaps after it's release or winning of an award, thank you.


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