Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Letter to B.I.G.


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The result was   Delete with no prejudice against recreating as a redirect  Nancy  talk  06:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Letter to B.I.G.

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Apparently non-notable song, only available via iTunes (see WP:MUSIC). Contested proposed deletion - deletion notice removed by creator. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC) UPDATE: Boom shakalaka haters, the song CHARTED! yall biggie hating brothas--Josecarlos1991 (talk) 06:20, 2 April 2009 (UTC) 
 * Delete as a non-plausible search term, fails notability per WP:MUSIC. No awards, no chart, no covers, no WP:RS.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 21:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. How can the name of a song be a non-plausible search term? Surely the obvious way to search for a song is to search for its name. --Zundark (talk) 16:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: trivial coverage, no awards, non-notable. JamesBurns (talk) 04:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep:The song is part of a soundtrack that did chart, it indeed entered the chart at #4, plus, dont hate on it, its a good song, maybe you guys havent even listened to it, but well, its a song by a Recognized rapper, dedicated to an even more important one.Ooh, and it has a Music video,i really dont know if the song itself charted or is charting,but i am pretty sure it did, or is, ive heard it sometimes on radio and stuff, but i have no idea of where to research for the info about the song charting or not. So keep the article, it doesnt damage you in any way, does it?
 * If it did appear on a notable album, redirection to an article about the album (if we have one) could be an option. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 17:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - song doesn't in fact appear to have charted, and appearing as one track on an album that did is irrelevant, as is having a video and being "a good song" (which is open to debate) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It Charted!And i think that this ends the debate, its a Keep am i right? here is the link (=--Josecarlos1991 (talk) 05:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Question is charting only on the very minor-sounding "Bubbling Under R&B/Hip-Hop Singles" deemed sufficient to pass WP:MUSIC....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Bubbling Under charts indicate that it never appeared on the main charts. eg. if a song appears at #25 on the bubbling under for an official Top 100 chart, it means its actual chart position is #125. If the official chart is a Top 200, the actual position is #225 etc etc JamesBurns (talk) 05:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:MUSIC. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No it doesnt fail it my brotha (= --Josecarlos1991 (talk) 04:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  --  I 'mperator 23:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  I 'mperator 23:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Just barely charted, no sources, seems to be a controversial redirect. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 23:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. 1) This Bubbling Under R&B/Hip-Hop Singles chart - is it notable? We do have a wikipedia entry, its the 25 places under the main RnB chart if I read that right. If the chart is major, the song is probably notable so we just need reliable sources for it. 2)It doesn't matter that it was included on a charting album, it needs notability in its own right. 3) Josecarlos1991, you might want to read WP:ILIKE and WP:AGF Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 23:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it is a major chart. Not all chart singles are notable, though, and I have no idea why something at 125 would ever be enough for an article. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 23:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Spending 1 week at the bottom of the chart below the actual chart does not equal notability. In the absence of any substantial media coverage or awards, it fails WP:NSONGS. TheJazzDalek (talk) 17:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It wasnt 1 week, it was 2 (=, and well, it is a single, from 2 records, from the ``Notorious´´ sountrack, and from the jadakiss new album, i have seen hundreds, if not thousands of wikipedia pages for singles, this is not just a song on the record, it is a single, now, the first deletion allegation was because it didnt chart on no, well, chart, and i proved it did, the song has its video, i know that whether i like it or not doesnt matter, but i think the single deserves its own article, maybe by adding the single cover and more information about it can make the article look nice and shinny. the single is notable enough to have its article, well thats all, good night and thank you guys for your attention.--Josecarlos1991 (talk) 05:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Being released as a single does not equal notability, either. TheJazzDalek (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Jadakis Article is unreferenced. As such, there is no proof of significant coverage as required by WP:Music. With no references, the article cannot pass WP:N, WP:NOBJ. Also, the most important notice, Per WP:NSONGS, "a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Damn brotha, thats why i said that it would be cool to add more info about the song --Josecarlos1991 (talk) 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Then do it, before the discussion is ended. Its not looking good. Sephiroth storm (talk) 23:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - no substantial coverage or awards. A-Kartoffel (talk) 10:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * naw, what for? this fellas would delete the article anyways, and well, since i am not an expert wikipedian, it would take me a shit load of time, which i have cause im on vacation, but i dont know how to put tables or some other stuff, and by the time i'd figure out how to, this guys would have screw all my work up, so well, whatever, delete whatever u want, bye --Josecarlos1991 (talk) 09:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Last Kiss (album), which is the Jadakiss album which features this song, and a more useful redirect than to the Notorious OST. There is not enough material on this song to get an article on it past what I would call a stub, while the parent album is now picking up reviews and is crying out for improvement of any sort. 86.44.27.192 (talk) 14:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


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