Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lew Childre


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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) SST flyer 02:00, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Lew Childre

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Known only as the founder of the already deleted non notable Heartmath Institute. Fails WP:ANYBIO. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:52, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as not all convincing any applicable notability. SwisterTwister   talk  06:57, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep Doc Childre is the WP:AUTHOR of many books that have received book reviews in reliable sources, per WP:AUTHOR #3 "The person has created .. a well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of .. multiple independent periodical articles or reviews."


 * Review in Journal of Holistic Healthcare, University of Westminster
 * Saletnik, Laurie. "Freeze Frame." AORN Journal Feb. 2001: 519. Review of book Freeze Frame (1998)
 * "The HeartMath Solution." Publishers Weekly 5 Apr. 1999: 236. Book review of same.
 * Marandino, Cristin. "And the Beat Goes On." Vegetarian Times Feb. 1999: 15. Review of Freeze Frame
 * Cryer, Bruce. Leadership Excellence. Sep2007, Vol. 24 Issue 9, p13-13. Abstract: "The author cites the stress management program of HeartMath, a company founded by Doc Childre"
 * Nina Utne. Utne. Sep/Oct2005, Issue 131, p28-28. 1/8p. 1 Color Photograph. Reviews the book "Transforming Stress"


 * Other Sources NewsBank shows 34 newspaper articles. Most of them are mentions of Childre's books and/or think tank though not dedicated reviews. A couple examples:
 * Gracie Bonds Staples. "Living with your choices Course of action", The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, October 30, 2010. Quote: "Doc Childre, the internationally renowned stress expert, said.."
 * Portia Berrey, "The heart has its own brain.literally." Denver Examiner, September 21, 2009. Summarizes Childre's position on the "brain in the heart".
 * Media sources at the HearthMath website has 100s of "in the media" sources archived (I have not looked through them for reliable sources about ChildreP).


 * -- Green  C  13:59, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:13, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete His books are published by "Planetary Publications" which is Heartmath Institute. Therefore, his books are all self-published. They are held in very few libraries (from 5-99 copies is what I found). The only reliable review source that I can see is Publisher's weekly, which is not enough to give him notability as an author. In terms of GNG, I didn't find anything in the searches that I did to support that. LaMona (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has articles about self-published authors, there's no guideline against self-published books or authors, only the sources about such books and authors. There is no guideline about library holdings. For an extensive list of sources see my post above. They are not all freely online, but they are all available online, in commercial databases, which are accessible through WP:REX. -- Green  C  00:31, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - while there have a been a few reviews of his books, they have not been in major, reliable sources, except for Utne Reader, which does not mean significant coverage. I don't see how the subject passes WP:AUTHOR, much less WP:GNG. Bearian (talk) 17:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Publishers Weekly, AORN Journal, Vegetarian Times, Leadership Excellence, the Journal of Holistic Healthcare at the University of Westminster are used throughout Wikipedia oddly being discounted as "unreliable".-- Green  C  18:13, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Only one reliable source, does not pass WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom29739 (talk • contribs)
 * AORN Journal is a peer reviewed academic journal, to call it unreliable would require justification. Journal of Holistic Healthcare at the University of Westminster same situation. Publishers Weekly is one of the countries largest review magazines we use it all the time on Wikipedia. Vegetarian Times looks reliable but we can discuss if you have reason to think not. Leadership Excellence is held in some university libraries and around for over a decade print publication I see no reason why it's unreliable. Atlantic Journal, Denver Examiner look reliable to me. Once we get past these we can five into the 100+ other sources here. --  Green  C  00:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. With due respect to all the delete !votes, I have to agree with  here: there are multiple reviews of his work in reliable sources, which is what we require for author notability.  In addition to his written work, note this 1992 Los Angeles Times article reporting that his Heart Zones stress-reduction tape "recently landed on the top 25 'Adult Alternative' list in Billboard magazine six weeks after its release. This is believed to be the first "therapeutic" tape to make the chart." And a March 20, 1993 page from Billboard shows that this album had been on the New Age chart for 49 weeks. The article has a checkered history, and we must continue to be careful not to allow unsupported assertions about Childre's work, but I think there's enough here to establish the subject's notability. --Arxiloxos (talk) 01:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  23:21, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


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