Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lewis MacLeod (footballer)


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The result was   delete. Jenks24 (talk) 11:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Lewis MacLeod (footballer)

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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Cliff Smith 18:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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Declined Prod:Never played in a Fully Pro League. Also does not meet WP:GNG. Rangers play in Third Divison and todays match against Brechin is a second division club again not fully pro. Prod was removed on grounds that Rangers are a fully pro club, that is correct but the League and match they played in are not, due to coverage Rangers receive it is highly likely some players will meet GNG but this player does not at this time. Blethering  Scot  11:22, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete i have found a few reliable sources on this one jsut needs to be updated and soruced correctly-- Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 11:35, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment It needs more than reliable sources it needs enough independent coverage to meet WP:GNG. At the moment its no where near only routine and primary sourcing and from what I've found when looking there isn't much in depth coverage. Will wait and see what you've found. Blethering  Scot  11:40, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * at least one is idenpent but ill try pos tthem later-- Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 12:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Lewis+MacLeod+(footballer)%22&num=50#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Lewis+MacLeod+(footballer)&oq=Lewis+MacLeod+(footballer)&gs_l=serp.3..0i30.5981.7349.0.7787.2.2.0.0.0.0.82.161.2.2.0...0.0...1c.8KoESQl2Qw0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=8f43c5bd048b596f&biw=1280&bih=797

check those if none are suitable ill change my vote to delete-- Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 12:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 14:40, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - it is possible that maybe Rangers players should be considered to meet WP:NFOOTY in the future, obviously at the present moment Macleod doesn't meet GNG but maybe in the next few weeks or months Rangers players will mostly meet GNG. Obviously that's WP:CRYSTAL at the moment but something to consider. Adam4267 (talk) 15:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see why it would be decided that "Rangers players should be considered to meet WP:NFOOTY in the future". They play in the Third Division, which is not a fully pro league.  I don't see why an exception should be made just because they are Rangers.  If their players meet the GNG, then fair enough, but I don't see why we should consider them a special case when it comes to NFOOTY..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:17, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant that if we see in future that the majority of new players do meet GNG then it should be considered adding them to the NFOOTY criteria. Or at least having an acknowledgemt that the players shouldn't be AFD'd. Not saying this will happen but if it does then maybe it should be considered. Although if you look at Barrie McKay who played one game for Rangers last season, he has an article and MacLeod doesn't. The only difference is that McKay made his debut a few months earlier. But neither actually meets GNG. I do think it suggests there's a flaw in our system. Adam4267 (talk) 20:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If any Rangers players in the new season are deemed to meet the GNG then they can be be kept on that basis, otherwise there's no need to tamper with NFOOTBALL, a guideline that deals with subject-specific notability. And the difference between McKay and MacLeod isn't just that the former made his debut earlier, it's that he made this appearance in the top tier of Scottish football (fully pro and hence passing NFOOTBALL), whereas MacLeod made his debut in a cup competition with the club in the fourth tier (not fully pro and hence failing NFOOTBALL). Mattythewhite (talk) 10:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * While that might make a difference in NFOOTY terms there is no difference in GNG. McKay doesn't meet it and neither does MacLeod. Adam4267 (talk) 12:47, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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