Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam Ferney


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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 18:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Liam Ferney

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Non-notable. Ample opportunity has been given to provide further references. Does not meet any criteria listed at WP:CREATIVE. Shiftchange (talk) 04:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete I am no poet, nor yet an Aussie; I search for Ferney, here's what I don't see: persuasive sources, article lacks them. My search did find the sources already on page, such as the non-profit, non-bluelinked http://cordite.org.au/tags/liam-ferney/ which interviewed Ferney in 2012 . He once worked for them as an editor, so it may not be quite independent, but the more significant point is how big a deal is this and the other sources? It looks to me as though he had gained some recognition within the apparently very small world of literary poetry in Australia. And I don't think that is quite enough. If you have a way to show that he passes WP:CREATIVE, Flag me to take another look.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ☮  JAaron95  Talk  18:18, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - references are either dead links, non-authoritative or written by journal of which subject used to be editor and hence is not neutral. No independent coverage to show notability.--Rpclod (talk) 03:10, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Delete Changing my !vote because, as Rpclod pointed out, this poet did not actually win the award.  Without that, the one independent review I found does not seem to be enough to establish notability. ABF99 (talk) 16:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)  - This poet did win a significant national poetry award in 2014, which qualifies him at least for notability in his country as per Wikipedia  Any Bio guidelines. He is also reviewed here.  I don't think we can expect the same amount of coverage for a poet  as for other kinds of 'notables.' ) unsigned comment added by ABF99 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * According to the Wikipedia site for the prize, the subject was on the shortlist for, but did not win, the prize.--Rpclod (talk) 12:50, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Rpclod You are right. I stand corrected.  ABF99 (talk) 14:00, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


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