Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam Hogan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Discussing a topic like this is no fun for anybody involved. Our emotions tell us that this boy "deserves" a page, but Wikipedia's policies cannot be allowed to be subject to our emotions. It also seems likely that the article's creator has a serious conflict of interest and has added unverified material that violates our policy on biographies of living persons, further muddying the waters. In the end the consensus here is in favor of deletion. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Liam Hogan

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A very sad local event lacking international repercussions. Lacks GHits and GNEWs of substance. Appears to be more a memorial page rather than a encyclopedic entry. I have tried to make this more encyclopedic, but the author refuses to allow edits to the original article. Author also appears to have created/contributed to a number of web based memorial sites.  ttonyb (talk) 19:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * DELETE - bad case of WP:OWN. Agree it is an in-memoriam page. If anything it is the father who is more notable than the son (victim and subject of article). --Simple Boba.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 19:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * May Liam rest in peace. This is a very sad incident, indeed. However, Wikipedia isn't really the place for him. My condolences on the loss. --23 Benson (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a memorial.  Qworty (talk) 03:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

NOTE I renamed the article and thus this AfD to Liam Hogan because the original title "Murder of..." is incorrect. The father was found not guilty of murder. The rename doesn't change this AfD in any way, but any admin who deletes the article should be sure to delete both articles (redirect and new) --Simple Boba.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 09:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - but rename and re-write to focus on the father and the actions of him instead. Deletion is not the right option.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This story was all over the newswhen it happened and the trial that followed was also quite highly publicized and followd by news media sutch as Sky News and BBC news etc..--BabbaQ (talk) 23:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * User:BabbaQ does make a good point. If the event is notable enough, rewriting the article to make it not read like a memorial page would make a good point. --204.115.33.49 (talk) 19:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:BOLD - nothing to stop you having a go at that while the AfD is still under consideration. It might persuade some (me included) to change their mind. --Simple Boba.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 19:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTMEMORIAL. as sad as his death is, WP does not hold articles for events that had media spikes. LibStar (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete It's not very mentionable. People die all the time from strange events such all this. I don't see what makes this child or his father notable. Alex³ (talk) 16:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Deeply upsetting, but just another everyday tragedy.  Didn't lead to legislation, or a war, or a museum or anything else of importance outside of this family and the parties involved.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 00:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.