Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam McCullough


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This may be a mite bold, as there were policy-grounded arguments and PER votes to both keep and delete. After a week and a half of relisting, there was minimal further participation, which did not further a consensus to delete. (non-admin closure) Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 19:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Liam McCullough

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Fails WP:NGRIDIRON. The individual does not appear to have played a game in a qualifying league (see his PFR page for more information on his non-notable NFL time), nor served in a notable coaching position. Coverage of the article subject outside of this context appears to be routine sports coverage. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 21:25, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:05, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:05, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:05, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Failing NGRIDIRON is irrelevant if he meets GNG—which—it appears does per the following: Worthington Kilbourne, Ohio State grad Liam McCullough ready for Raiders from ThisWeekNews.com; Liam McCullough delivers again, arrives at Ohio State camp sporting T-shirt of himself from SaturdayTradition.com; and Ohio State long snapper Liam McCullough takes aim at NFL career from The Columbus Dispatch and BuckeyeXtra.com. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:29, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * To respond source-by-source:
 * This Week News appears to be a community newspaper, though the coverage is in-depth.
 * Saturday Tradition appears to be an Ohio State sportsblog. The article itself doesn't appear to be significant coverage, and it's about the shirt that he's wearing to training camp (see WP:DOGBITESMAN).
 * The Columbus Dispatch's coverage, reprinted in BuckeyeXtra.com, seems to be in-depth, significant, and independent.
 * Taken together, it's a rather weak WP:GNG case. If we're relying upon a community newspaper to be the second reliable source (and that community newspaper appears to actually be affiliated with The Columbus Dispatch, FYI), to what extent does this person's inclusion add encyclopedic value? — Mikehawk10 (talk) 22:52, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I did a deeper search and found this, this, this, and this. Also, his OSU profile says he was a finalist (I believe top 3) for the Patrick Mannelly Award, given to the best LS in the nation. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:43, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete First of all, the subject was a walk-on long snapper at Ohio State, i.e., a limited purpose special teams player who did not play as a member of the regular defensive or offensive units. Moreover, the GNG showing is weak.  The two substantive pieces are both from The Columbus Dispatch ("ThisWeekNews" is published by the Dispatch).  The third source is a sports blog. GNG requires SIGCOV in multiple reliable sources. Finally, there's nothing in the Wiki article showing any real encyclopedic value. Absent a showing of SIGCOV in other reliable sources, this one should be deleted. Cbl62 (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per BeanieFan11. MainPeanut (talk) 18:47, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * keep passes WP:GNG. He even had coverage in high school:  USA Today--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cbl62 and Mikehawk's response.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 14:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The "USA Today" article is a from subsidiary website focused on college recruiting and not the newspaper proper. Usually, notable college players have a much larger breadth of coverage by even localized sources if not multiple national references. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:43, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep despite the comments above I feel the subject meets WP:GNG, which does not exclude local coverage. NemesisAT (talk) 10:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 10:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I'll admit, it's a borderline case. But I think there are sufficient sources to meet GNG. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 01:01, 1 November 2021 (UTC)


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