Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam Rice


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Liam Rice

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Non-notable person. Nothing to indicate that subject meets any applicable biographical notability criteria. Specifically: In short, I do not see why we have this article. It stood for 14 years only as an example of why we have WP:VER guidelines. And now seems to stand only as an example of why we have WP:SIGCOV guidelines. Guliolopez (talk) 15:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:1E / WP:VICTIM - The main claim to notability, erroneously claimed in the article for 14 years, seems to have been that the subject was shot and killed by the police in Dublin in the early 1940s. While I can find evidence that the subject was shot by the police, all the evidence suggests that he survived and was imprisoned. Living for many decades after his release. Regardless, being the victim of a shooting (fatal or otherwise) does not contribute to notability.
 * WP:INHERITED - The secondary claim to notability, seemingly claimed in the article (perhaps less erroneously), is that the shooting of the subject was attributed to Denis O'Brien (police officer). While this is not substantiated in any of the sources I can find, even if it was definitively established that the subject was shot by someone notable/notorious/whatever, that does not contribute to notability. Notability is not "transferred". By a bullet or otherwise.
 * WP:MILPERSON - The tertiary claim to notability, implied in the lead/cats/etc, is that the subject was a member of the IRA. Being a member of such a group doesn't contribute to notability on its own.
 * WP:GNG - The only remaining claim to notability is that the subject might have received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. As per the related discussion on the article talkpage, given that I have had to trawl through any number of "passing mentions" in various sources (to establish even the basic facts of the subject's life/claimed-death/imprisonment/etc) it is very clear to me that GNG/SIGCOV is not met. There are no biographical sources which cover the subject directly. His name pops up in other sources. But always in the context of other people and other events. I had to engage in SYNTH and OR myself to even establish whether the subject was alive. Not to mind anything else. I could find no sources that deal with the "topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content".
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 15:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: not much going on here to justify notability. ww2censor (talk) 13:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. not a notable person. Spleodrach (talk) 18:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.