Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liberal-Popular Union


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There are credible arguments here that the very existence of the subject is not verifiable ([WP:V), and they have not been rebutted here with references to reliable sources.  Sandstein  06:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Liberal-Popular Union

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Almost all of the page refers to the activities of the Liberal Foundation (chaired by Ferdinando Adornato), in addition there is only one source that announces the "future" foundation of this faction, but no source attributable to its actual foundation. Assuming that this faction was really born, Adornato left anyway Forza Italy shortly afterwards. I don't think this page can be considered encyclopedic. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 17:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. I am very sorry that a deletionist trend has come from it.Wikipedia to en.Wikipedia. This was a small and short-lived faction, but the subject has sources and relavance. And... even the smallest of factions deserve an article. --Checco (talk) 19:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. It is not a deletionist trend, but Wikipedia can't contain everything. This faction is totally unknown, there are no sources on its actual foundation and above all it is not possible to find any source on it (except one where it was only announced), indeed, almost the entire content of this page is not referred to it. it is difficult to consider this page even minimally encyclopedic if there aren't even sources about it...--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 19:57, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep – Italian political party factions are worthy of having their own individual articles, particularly a faction that was part of a political party that governed Italy for a significant amount of time.--Autospark (talk) 19:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * comment. I'm not surprised that the usual two users have expressed themselves in favor of keeping, but how can we consider encyclopedic something that we don't know if it was actually founded? Because there is no source regarding the foundation of this current.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:28, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * And I was not surprised by who was proposing the deletion. There are sources on the subject, so what? --Checco (talk) 09:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * What are the sources about this faction? Where is it written that this Liberal-Popular Union was founded? I have not found these sources. There is only one source where Adornato claims to want to found a faction with this name, and that's it. No source about the foundation of the Liberal-Popular Union, the whole page refers to general topics, to Ferdinando Adornato's initiatives or to the Liberal Foundation. From a internet search it is impossible to find information about it. It is very probable that this Liberal-Popular Union never existed, since there doesn't seem to be any evidence, and in any case almost all the text on the page is a fill that does not concern the main topic of the page. It seems almost natural to me that the page on an unknown object and without sources should be deleted. --Scia Della Cometa (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 13:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * comment. It seems to me quite amazing that a page on a non-existent entity can be maintained. It is not written in any source that that this Liberal-Popular Union existed, despite the announcement, on 27 October 2007 it appears that Ferdinando Adornato simply made a meeting of his Liberal Clubs, he didn't founded any official current (which never existed in Forza Italia). This page would be maintained only for the opposition of the user who wrote it and another who follows it on trust, but here it also takes realism., you said that the subject has sources, but you are able to provide evidence of its actual existence? I have not found them... --Scia Della Cometa (talk) 17:05, 28 April 2020 (UTC)


 * It's a pity that the user doesn't want to answer, this shows that he is not able to prove the existence of this object. It is no coincidence that the whole page does not refer to this faction. Due also to the general lack of interest in this Afd, the risk is to keep a page on an object that does not exist due to the (unjustified) opposition of two allied users.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.