Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liberalism in the Republic of Ireland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Nobody wants to keep, and the merge/redirect opinion does not say where to. The other similar articles would need to be discussed separately.  Sandstein  08:39, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Liberalism in the Republic of Ireland

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Delete. Zero references for a range of article contained in the template: Liberalism in Europe. Would like to delete all of them. Very few have sources, which makes them all original research. Liberalism in Albania No references. Liberalism in Montenegro no refs. scope_creep (talk) 22:40, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:09, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:09, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete It might be possible to write an article on the topic (although the vagueness/historically changing meaning of the word liberalism may complicate that), but as the article admits, and as is confirmed elsewhere, Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are both conservative parties, and hence there's no content about liberalism. No opinion on the other articles. --Colapeninsula (talk) 08:36, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect - It is not clear what deletion criteria is being applied. But if we take the two RS/VER criteria (as refs are mentioned in the nom), I'm not sure either apply. Yes, absolutely, the content is poorly sourced. But one doesn't imagine we can apply WP:DEL6 ("sources not found; and never will be"). Nor, unless the searches were tracked somewhere other than the article's talk page, does it seem to meet WP:DEL7 ("sources not be found; despite thorough searches"). Happy to change recommendation. In particular if I've missed the "thorough attempts to find reliable sources" that DEL7 expects. Otherwise it seems the best course is an aggressive VER/CN cleanup. And, after that, if all that's left is a simple statement ("there are political parties in Ireland with liberal policies"), then we can just merge that statement into the parent article. And redirect this title... Guliolopez (talk) 16:05, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Having looked extensively at the range of article in the template, I think now, that deleting them all would be a mistake. Talking Liberalism in the Netherlands, which is an excellent article, as an example of a good, well sourced article, it is possible to write a good article on the subject, if political parties in the country support liberalism. As Colapeninsula says, Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are both conservative but drifting with some, possibly minor aspects of liberalism in their makeup. talk, that could be it, but there is seem to be some mixes sources on GBooks, would need real substantial work to research it. I think the author has probably made some attempt to add sources while some of them are built, but has been unable to provide them, and moved on to them next one, hence supporting the fact that some are WP:OR, with little evidence to support facts. Either way, my initial premise to remove them all, because they all were WP:OR, is probably wrong. scope_creep (talk) 16:28, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:59, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete I see nothing worth saving here. Power~enwiki (talk) 08:03, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.