Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Libertarian National Socialist Green Party (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 11:30, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Libertarian National Socialist Green Party
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The subject matter is not notable; it isn't even close. Of its four cited sources, only one is reliable. The other three are not suitable for inclusion at this site. The so-called Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is nothing but a website, and its sole claim to notability is its peripheral mention in media accounts of the Red Lake massacre, which frankly isn't sufficient (and not surprisingly, provides its sole reliable source mention). A merger with Bill White (neo-Nazi) might be another acceptable option, but frankly a brief mention of the existence of this website (and rest assured, that's all it is; it is NOT a political party in any way, shape, or form, and it never has been) at both the Bill White article, and the Red Lake massacre article, should be more than sufficient coverage for this distinctly non-notable subject material.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 09:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom's comments. Note that the organization listing reference essentially says that the "party" is a probable hoax, and is used to cite a sentence that says something similar.  North8000 (talk) 10:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I see only trivial coverage in reliable sources and no significant coverage. In the first AFD, a number of editors cited some news stories relating to Jeffrey Weise and the Red Lake massacre. However, the coverage in those sources never amounted to anything substantial, nor do I think the breadth of coverage is sufficient to establish notability. There is simply not enough information in the reliable sources to write an article about this organization. -- Irn (talk) 11:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Every hoax alarm in my brain is buzzing, the name of this purported organization being an idiot's contradiction of terms. If it weren't for the Guardian story in the footnotes about the school shooter that is said to have posted on a message board of this purported organization, I'd say it was an easy call. I favor the inclusion of all political parties, their leaders, and their youth sections if existence can be confirmed; but this sounds more like The Onion than anything. Carrite (talk) 15:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I tend to share in the notion that we should be particularly inclusive when its comes to articles about political parties, but (and I hate to be repetitive) this isn't a political party.  This is merely an obscure and eccentric website;  there is no membership, there are no activities.  Its really no different than if I posted a bunch of photographs of myself at a website, and called that site the Human Anatomical Representation Party.  Mere utilization of the term "party," does not make something into a bona fide political party. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 19:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is not a real party and had no existence beyond a website and a volunteer spokesman. Merging Bill White material to that article would be appropriate. I'm not sure about the rest.   Will Beback    talk    23:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, or even Speedy Delete per CSD A7 (organisations and websites). The first  AfD was an Non-admin closure by  an editor who has made the sum  total of 2 edits to the encyclopedia. Any experienced user or admin  may  have either assessed the consensus differently  or relisted the AfD. Apart from  a fleeting  mention  in a newspaper article about  something  else, I have not  found sufficient  reliable sources that  even hint  at  notability. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:26, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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