Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lieutenant Hadar Goldin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin. Liz Read! Talk! 18:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Lieutenant Hadar Goldin

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:NMIL and anything relevant can be covered in Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin. There is no independent notability here. See also: Articles for deletion/Hadar Goldin - nothing has changed. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 18:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin per WP:BLP1E. – bradv  19:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Redirect to Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin per WP:NOTMEMORIAL. No credible claim of notability. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  20:47, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to Hadar Goldin, merge from there, then delete Lieutenant Hadar Goldin (the current Hadar Goldin). Merge into Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin and delete right after.
 * The Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin is a notable event and justifiably has an article. It contains substantially more detail on Oron Shaul than on Hadar Goldin, hence the information frpm the Lieutenant Hadar Goldin article is needed for Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin. The info in the new article is not WP:UNDUE (would be reason not to merge) as the deaths article is on Goldin. Because of the imbalance and the shortage in background on Goldin, it is BADLY DUE!!! Hence merge.
 * This merge is REGARDLESS of seperate notability. Probably nom stands correct on notability, however, it doesn't matter. The merge is needed anyway. The article would be an unjustified spinoff it the person was notable and still would need to be merged.
 * Now to the delete. The article was created TODAY under the WRONG NAME (with military rank) so has virtually ZERO historic or likely search value. Hence it should only be deleted or renamed (including into draft). Not kept as is or redirected! Since a merge was established above as needed, it is clear that, of these options, a delete after merge is warranted. gidonb (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Minor quibble: we cannot merge content from deleted articles, as then we would lose copyright attribution. If we merge any of the content at all we will need to redirect this page so the history stays intact. – bradv  03:21, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, User:Bradv. Can we perhaps move to Hadar Goldin, then merge from there? That is a legitimate redirect. The current Hadar Goldin never contained more than a redirect. gidonb (talk) 03:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The conclusion was tweaked a bit with Brad's welcome input, the reasoning stands. gidonb (talk) 13:07, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Article in ARABPIA was created by a non-EC user — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dovidroth (talk • contribs) 09:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to existing article Deaths and ransoming of Oron Shaul and Hadar Goldin. Marokwitz (talk) 10:18, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.