Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lifeboat Foundation (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 06:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Lifeboat Foundation
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This organization has an extensive website, lists many notable persons as its contributors, but has itself not much coverage (which is required according to the notability guideline for organizations). For coverage older than 2 years old, see the previous nomination; it includes a blog from New York times, and other blogs, but no references in reliable sources. I wasn't able to find any improvement. L.tak (talk) 10:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: In addition to the "references" provided at the last AfD and since the recreation of this article (  , all effectively blogs), I've found: a passing mention in the Wall Street Journal; this from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, and a handful of posts on no-name blogs (most of which start with some variation of "I've just been asked to join the Lifeboat Foundation..."). As none of these are  reliable sources with significant coverage that are independent of the subject, there is currently nothing to demonstrate notability. Mysterious Whisper 13:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence that they have actually done anything.  DGG ( talk ) 16:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Article creator here - Sorry, I was busy with other matters for the last few weeks and haven't had time for any Lifeboat business. I just spotted the deletion request now, and have posted a message about it on the internal Lifeboat Foundation forum asking people to provide relevant references. Could the deletion be postponed by another week or two? Ripper234 (talk) 22:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * There's still at least five days left while the AfD is open, and you can always save a copy to a user subpage to recreate once enough references have been found and notability can be proven. Per User:DGG, it would also help to find evidence that they've actually done something. Mysterious Whisper 22:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


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 * Comment: I have heard of the Foundation through conventional media, specifically CBC Radio, although I'd be hard pressed to give an exact CITE (Quirks and Quarks I *think*). But it seems much of the little online coverage available is related more to their use of bitcoin than anything else. So how to judge? Well given that the club seems to be made up largely of infamous self-promoters, I am inclined to lean in that direction, and suggest delete. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(talk page) 14:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran ( t  •  c ) 03:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)




 * Delete A case could be made for notability. However I really have a problem here with "in depth" coverage.  Most secondary coverage seems to be the "main stream media/daily press" just believing the organization's press releases.  There seem to be some serious questions about the nature of this organization and the sources out there are not enough for a NPOV article.  Note that there is also no article on its founder, Eric Klien. Steve Dufour (talk) 05:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak delete: The extra input I can provide is based on searching for scholarly sources. The Foundation is mentioned in some academic work, but typically just in passing to state that all sorts of bad things could happen, to then justify some proposal not of the Foundation's doing (a human backup base on the moon, etc.). The Foundation's reports, for their part, have no substantive impact. But, there is quite a body of them out.Truth or consequences-2 (talk) 16:25, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. Does this organisation operate lifeboats?  If it doesn't have any lifeboats, but it wants to in the future, then delete, until they get enough money for the lifeboats. Barney the barney barney (talk) 22:40, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
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