Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lifoti


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Single-purpose accounts disregarded.  Sandstein  14:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Lifoti

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My WP:CSD tag was reverted on the grounds that this new magazine, launched in November 2016, was produced by a notable person. As notability is not WP:NOTINHERETED, and there seems to be no evidence of secondary sources supporting notability, but much suggesting WP:PROMOTION, using links to free, self-published press release websites, it is perhaps appropriate to propose this article for wider discussion under WP:AfD than speedy deletion. Parkywiki (talk) 02:00, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep this magazine was published in printed form, more evidence of secondary source found here Amazonso inherently notable magazine Jerrysoko (talk) 07:23, 24 December 2016 (UTC) — Jerrysoko (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Hi User talk:Jerrysoko, just wanted to briefly mention that having a book on sale on Amazon does not mean the book is worthy of its own article space. There needs to be news coverage from independent reliable sources. If you can find any please add them in the references, otherwise, this article should be deleted. -  Scorpion293  &#124; talk  04:57, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP:TOOSOON. Some press-releases and links to the magazine are trivial. How a listing on Amazon makes this "inherently notable" is beyond me. --Randykitty (talk) 16:35, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete - No sign of notability. Press releases are not reliable sources, neither are none of the references presented in this article. Also, this user - Jerrysoko - is potentially tied to the creator of this article and his comment should not be taken into consideration. One word: Speedy Deletion. -  Scorpion293  &#124; talk  21:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge into KJIVA. This is certainly not notable yet. Anything salvageable can go in the article about its founder. Adam9007 (talk) 21:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep- printed version of this magazine distributed globally check this ISBN 978-1540718716 having validate proof of selling on various shopping site & produced by a notable person so no chances of WP:AfD and i think user Scorpion293, Parkywiki  are personally against this user —Jerrysoko might be hurt Rockwalla39 (talk) 08:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC) — Rockwalla39 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment This userpage User:Rockwalla39 is being considered for deletion for copying and pasting an admins banstars in order to deceive and disrupt AfD process. More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Rockwalla39 Scorpion293 (talk) 05:37, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Response That's a strong accusation, - just check my edit history and you'll see I arrived here purely because I was using WP:AWB to typo fix new articles. When I do that I check quickly to see if an article appears to have any merit - and this one does not. I have no interest  whatsoever in the user you mentioned (do you?), but I am keen to avoid Wikipedia being used as a medium to promote non-notable content. It was that that reason I proposed WP:CSD, and that alone. I hadn't until today even checked the article creator's contribution history, which can oftentimes be quite telling.  Merry ChristmasParkywiki (talk) 12:42, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Response Sorry for accusation —Parkywiki hope u take it lightly, thank you for your best wishes & have a happy Christmas, same apologize to Scorpion293 hope u also understood —Rockwalla39 (talk) 16:38, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries - thanks for that.Parkywiki (talk) 15:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Response User:Rockwalla39 Please don't accuse me of being against any user. What I am against is spam and articles with no reliable sources. This article has no evidence of impact in journalism or awards won, which is needed for a news publication like a magazine. The fact that the magazine was distributed does not mean anything. Where are the news articles from Forbes, XXL, MTV, Billboard, The Guardian, New York Times, or other reliable sources like books, academic journals..etc., talking about this music magazine in-depth? In my opinion, this article should potentially be 'merged with the KJIVA. Although, however, I will need to investigate that article too as I don't see any reliable independent sources. - Scorpion293  &#124; talk  20:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:38, 26 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Update It appears that this article, along with KJIVA, Me_n_Mah_Beat, and his apparent record label United_Naxal_Records have NO reliable independent sources at all, not one. There is nothing but "free press release" articles, iTunes & Amazon store links, and user-generated music profiles. As to how these articles got approved: I don't know. But it looks like this user has been spamming Wikipedia with hoax articles. Not one reliable source exists for this musician, and in addition, none exists with a simple Google search either. Here's an example; in this article, in the first paragraph, the following was written about the magazine: "It debuted in November 2016 with Peter Tosh on the cover..." Tosh died in 1987, so how did he make the cover? This is just one example of many that I found in articles about the subject, made to deceive editors into thinking his magazine is "notable". I think it's safe to say that this guy has duped Wikipedia editors. In my opinion, the user who created these articles, as the subject too, should be blacklisted from Wiki. I have added these articles in the "articles for deletion" section, and will continue looking for more, if any exists. - Scorpion293  &#124; talk  23:58, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Response: User:Scorpion293 this user is exploiting wikipedia policy he has added WP:AfD manually on various articles without tool & proper reason. This user don't know much more about Notability_(music) page KJIVA is categories under  WP:COMPOSER which is non performing personnel. secondly he is writer so don't consider it as only musician. I think this user -User:Scorpion293 is against this artist or may be his hater so he done same processes for his another pages like Murder: The Gangster Rhymes, United Naxal Records, Me n Mah Beat. This has manually remove important citation links from page and add WP:AfD over it without proper explanation. Again this user is fool in field of magazine by saying peter tosh is dead & how should he appear on cover in 2016. note forUser:Scorpion293 tupac shakur died in 1996 but still  he appear on various magazine covers check issue of xxl magazine 2011. Before posting to some thing be sured what you post. I think this user is spam to do WP:AfD on various articles check this user contribution & banned. so i request block this user permanently.   Ligard39   (Talk2Me&#124;Contribs) 07:46, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: User:ATS Please help us with this user who is hoaxing Wikipedia. Can you identify any reliable sources? Thanks. -  Scorpion293  &#124; talk  00:40, 27 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge into KJIVA, if that article survives. Our guidelines are clear: an article must establish notability as befits an encyclopedia. Delete if KJIVA fails. — ATS &#128406;  talk  02:45, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete, as this is WP:PROMOTION and WP:TOOSOON, have been unable to find any useable sources, not averse to haveing a couple of lines about this magazine added to founders article. ps. being on Amazon and having an isbn does not make a publication notable. pps. this article did not get "approved" (it did not go thru WP:AFC). Coolabahapple (talk) 15:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment,, just wondering what sort of relationship you have with KJIVA, as you appear to have only contributed to wikipedia on articles associated with him? also, do you have any relationship to User:Nileshjambhulkar? i note that a picture of KJIVA which that user put on wikicommons also has an author of JERRY Coolabahapple (talk) 15:38, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Response:hey Coolabahapple you are putting accusation on me just because i am contributing wikipedia about KJIVA. I found this article stub thats why i am edited it because i have the knowledge of Marathi people & their culture. Another issue i have use this picture just because search KJIVA on wikicommons and i get that result. Thats no mean i have relation with any user. If i contributed wikipedia about any articles which i have knowledge and u think its relationship with me then from next time i will never contribute to wikipedia.Jerrysoko (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for your reassurances, i meant no offense and hope you continue to contribute. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:07, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment: Please note that Kjiva was deleted and salted after an AfD only a few months ago. I put this remark here, because the AFD for KJIVA (and several related articles]] does not seem to have been created and transcluded correctly. --Randykitty (talk) 18:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Someone created a Kjiva article before and it was deleted twice due to no reliable sources, not one. It appears that someone created it again with no sources. I think the subject should be blacklisted from Wikipedia, as someone is clearly creating an article about this subject, which clearly has no news coverage or reliable sources. Hi User:David_Eppstein, you deleted the following article Kjiva, is this the same subject? -  Scorpion293  &#124; talk  04:48, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:COMPANY. Unable to find any significant secondary sources to support notability.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:26, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - searches did not turn up the type of in-depth coverage necessary to pass either WP:GNG or WP:CORP.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


 * Update I have crossed out the comments left by confirmed sockpuppet accounts "Jerrysoko", "Rockwalla39" that are tied to Kjiva and KJIVA. -  Scorpion293  &#124; talk  20:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)