Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lightspeed Financial


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Promotional language was mostly removed. Thesteve produced reliable sources but I encourage incorporating them into the article. Dcoetzee 05:59, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Lightspeed Financial

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No reliable sources to establish encyclopedic notability of a company. Can't find anything other than press releases. Prod declined by likely COI author. tedder (talk) 21:42, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Original comment to delete page was because admin "can't find anything other than press releases". Content was revised to include multiple non press release sources about Lightspeed Financial's acquisitions. Lightspeed Financial is the parent company of Lightspeed Trading LLC which is a mid-sized broker dealer and well known in the active trading community. See user reviews: http://investimonials.com/brokers/reviews-lightspeed.aspx Page has been on Wikipedia since 2009 without any issues prior to this update. Please advise on how to proceed Bencathers (talk) 17:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bencathers (talk • contribs) 22:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The user reviews aren't a reliable, verifiable source. Nor are the press releases. Out of the twelve references used, the following three are the only ones that are interesting in any way:, , . The fact the article was stale for several years isn't a strong indication of encyclopedic fit, see WP:ARTICLEAGE. tedder (talk) 22:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * More outside articles were added, including coverage from Dow Jones, Crains NY (Best places to work 2010 - http://www.crainsnewyork.com/gallery/20101205/GALLERIES/120109999/25), Marketwatch.com detailing Greenmoor acquisition + Lightspeed having 3% of daily trades in U.S options(http://www.marketwatch.com/story/lightspeed-financial-buys-chicago-options-firm-2011-07-06), Highfrequencytraders.com which details 220 million US equity shares/day (significant amount in brokerage industry - http://www.highfrequencytraders.com/article/lightspeed-financial-completes-acquisition-terra-nova-financial), A-teamgroup.com (http://www.a-teamgroup.com/article/lightspeed-financial-acquires-lime-brokerage-international-ireland-limited/), Forexmagnate.com (http://forexmagnates.com/lightspeed-financial-acquires-noble-trading/) and Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/05/07/us-exchanges-summit-lightspeed-idUSN0728462520080507) Bencathers (talk) 17:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bencathers (talk • contribs) 17:20, 29 November 2011 (UTC)  (talk) 17:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: User reviews are not reliable sources. SL93 (talk) 22:41, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:41, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. When an article's this spammy, notability becomes a side issue: ...offers a fully-integrated, specialized prime brokerage platform for professional investors. In addition to front-end manual and automated trading solutions, it provides a sales trading desk for execution services, technology solutions, custody, clearing, and portfolio reporting. Lightspeed Institutional also delivers robust pre-trade risk management and real-time risk monitoring. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 20:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * All "spammy" adjectives were removed. Thanks for pointing those out. Content is similar to other Broker Dealers including Zecco.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecco), Thinkorswim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecco.com) and Scottrade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottrade) Bencathers (talk) 21:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep When an article is this spammy, it requires more attention.  Mentions in the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and more.  This $30 million company is big enough to keep.   Th e S te ve   22:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep the article needs to be cut back and started from there however the subject is notable. |► ϋrбan яeneωaℓ  •  TALK  ◄| 05:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.