Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liken (series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 16:52, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Liken (series)

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No evidence of satisfying any of the notability guidelines. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 22:58, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 22:58, 26 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Yes... the article lacks reliable sources. Shame on its author. In searches I do find the series spoken of in such as Deseret News Portsmouth Daily Times so it's not completely unsourcable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:05, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: The "shameful" author here. is the actual website for the series. Their other site is  and the company is lightstone studios. It is real and Shame on you for proposing deletion. SuperGilligan 06:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The official series website and the production company's website do nothing to establish notability per the applicable guideline. We do not doubt the series exists, but for inclusion herein we need significant coverage in reliable sources. See WP:GNG and WP:RS. I found some few mentions above which might be used as citations within the articcle. To be determined as notable, we need more than mentions. Come forward with commentary and reviews of the series and the tide could turn.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Try deleting articles with no sources what so ever. According to your link to WP:GNG, It needs significant coverage and I have found all the coverage necessary as well as links being contributed, Thanks others, It also needs reliability and the main web site has more reliability than you will have in your lifetime, People have added to the sources I put there, I am not affiliated in any way with Liken so I am independent of the subject, and it does give a presumption that the article is notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. So back off, have you even looked at the article since you first proposed it's deletion? I doubt it. SuperGilligan Out. 00:45, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The 'significant coverage' also has to be 'independent of the subject' to establish Wikipedia notability. We are simply looking for major independent coverage of Liken (for example newpaper article s ) that does not have a vested interest in promoting the subject. Sionk (talk) 14:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Jujutacular  talk 13:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment There is also THIS comprehensive article in a Utah newspaper. I can't comment on whether to keep the article because the Deseret news article link (above) is unreachable and the Portsmouth Daily Times links to a 1920 newspaper, which seems dubious! Sionk (talk) 13:25, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I've found a Deseret review, see article, and inserted an 'Intended audience' and a 'Reception' section. Liken clearly has its strengths and weaknesses - see Reception - and while some may sniff at the stuff, other folks appreciate it. I'd remind nom that TV series are generally automatically Notable here, and that we're supposed not to bite Newbie editors on their first stumbling attempts at walking - there were in fact 4 URLs buried in the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 23:17, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note that, as far as I can see, Liken.tv not a television station. As far as I can see Liken is a musical which has been broadcast on a Mormon website (or DVD series), not a national television show. I don't know why its called Liken (series). Maybe someone can explain. Deseret seem to be an online book seller, so their review has a vested interest to sell products, hardly a reliable source. Sionk (talk) 23:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I called it Liken (series) because it is a Musical series and when you "Liken" something it means you compare things to yourselves, I didn't want any confusion if there was a different article for the word liken.SuperGilligan 01:27 5 January 2012 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 03:28, 14 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment- Deseret Book is the publisher for the LDS church; while they are definitely a book seller, they review external media to recommend those with 'suitable content' (my words). As such, they review many products without carrying them. While this does not seem to be their product, these are available through them. Dru of Id (talk) 04:14, 14 January 2012 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Wifione  Message 19:39, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. Borderline, but once you strip away the producer "references", you're left with reviews from a small newspaper (30K+ circulation) and "a computer programmer by day", and an advertising blurb. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
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