Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lili (Tekken)


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The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to List of Tekken characters. Courcelles (talk) 18:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Lili (Tekken)

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Unfortunately just like Articles for deletion/Jun Kazama and Articles for deletion/Paul Phoenix (Tekken), Lili also has the same problem. Zero WP:SIGCOV and most of the coverage were just only announcements on Tekken 8 and nothing else. This source is also trivia. The design section sources were game guides and passing mention of Lili with the only one genuine source about out her minor controversy in Australia. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 13:14, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 13:14, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 13:14, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep: I was actually about starting to work on this one. I recently added this to the article as a real life example. Then here's one piece I found discussing the controversy behind her sex appeal (particularly due to her being under 18), which I have yet to add to the article. Then there's the article from GamesRadar that discusses her, along with Dragunov. We also have this, which while an announcement of her in Tekken 8, goes into more than just a routine announcement. And since Lili is probably the second-most popular female character in Tekken after Nina Williams, I'm holding the benefit of the doubt she has more as well. MoonJet (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Most of the sources that you've shown were trivial/passing mention, meanwhile the Lili cosplay thing as martial arts is situational into unreliable (cannot be used for notability). I'm not sure why you kept repeating that statement "Lili is probably the second-most popular female character in Tekken. I'm holding the benefit of the doubt she has more as well". Look at Articles for deletion/Anna Williams (Tekken), she is more popular than Lili and yet she fails notability.
 * GlatorNator (ᴛ) 21:57, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't agree that these are trivial. Lili is a major focus in the GamesRadar source, and that source on her controversy is specifically about her.
 * What made you conclude that The Paradise is situational?
 * How about these cosplay sources?
 * https://www.egames.news/entretenimiento/Tekken-Nelly-Laufeyson-presume-su-poderoso-cosplay-de-Emilie-De-Rochefort-20220321-0038.html
 * https://www.gry-online.pl/newsroom/najlepsze-cosplaye-lili-rochefort-z-serii-tekken/z8110ae (reliable per WP:VG/RS) MoonJet (talk) 09:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Not gonna explain further details. Trivia and still doesn't count as WP:SIGCOV.  GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 10:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Tekken characters. Sorry, but, no - all those sources seem super trivial and this is an obvious failure of GNG. This is an article made to promote a character and desperately seeking sources, not an article made in response to sources existing about a well-known character. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:35, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Tekken characters - The sources currently in the article and presented in this AFD are a mess of listicles, unreliable sources, and routine reporting on game/product announcements (i.e. character reveals). And, obviously pictures of someone cosplaying as the character is not valid coverage. The closest that comes to genuine coverage is the minor controversary the character caused in Australia, and I'm not finding much about that outside of that one article. Rorshacma (talk) 01:52, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge found many sources about her being in Tekken 8 but these sources also shift it's focus on other Tekken characters as well. Kazama16 (talk) 02:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


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