Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lilo Gloeden


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The result was Keep. Discussion of where to take the article from here can continue on the article's talk page. Michig (talk) 07:42, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Lilo Gloeden

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While courageous, her anti-Nazi resistance work does not merit an article. Her marginal involvement in the 20 July plot does not rise to even WP:ONEEVENT. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep I added a couple references and others may be found (many in German) by searching books or scholar for "Elisabeth Gloeden", satisfying WP:BASIC. In editing the article, I've put the focus more on the family as a unit and a rename might be appropriate if kept in this form. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 19:16, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. With these additional sourced, the article seems to reach the general notability bar.--Ipigott (talk) 08:33, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Possibly rename to Execution of Gloeden family - which is clearly notable in a BEFORE. The individuals may fall under BIO1E.Icewhiz (talk) 11:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Endorsing this rename target. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 17:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Rename and restructure per Icewhiz. I was dubious of the merits of this article when I looked at it; but am not opposing three keep votes.  However, she seems no more (or less) notable than her husband and parents, all of whom were apparetnly executed for the same "crime".  Was the use of beheading usual in Nazi Germany?  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:46, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, but probably rename as suggested. There is important material here, but I would agree that Icewhiz's suggestion might be a better fit for the content. Dunarc (talk) 23:39, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability criteria met. Move/rename to "Execution of Gloeden family" as suggested. Hmlarson (talk) 02:18, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename and restructure With these additional sources, the material itself reaches the general notability bar. The time also had a profound effect on world history as well so it is important to document. In addition, Lilo Gloeden actions were very brave and admirable and her life intersected with an important figure in a notable manner.Knox490 (talk) 05:00, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


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