Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Limoneira, California


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The result was redirect to Santa Paula, California. (non-admin closure) CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Limoneira, California

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Prompted by comments at the discussion of Kevet, I've skipped ahead to this location, which technically was a rail spot (there was a long spur leading here) but which acquires its name from the Limoneira Ranch, the home base of a huge citrus/avocado growing operation. Their website lists all their properties, totalling some 14,500 acres, and of this property they say, "'The Limoneira/Olivelands Ranch is the original site of the company and consists of approximately 1,744 contiguous acres located just west of Santa Paula, California. There are approximately 1,189 acres of agricultural plantings on this property which consist of approximately 544 acres of lemons, 643 acres of avocados and 2 acres of specialty citrus and other crops.'" So I think it is very safe to say this was never a settlement. Limoneira, the company, already has its own article, and there's nothing here salvageable, so I think we can do without this article. Mangoe (talk) 15:15, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect to Santa Paula, California. Limoneira built housing on their land in the late 1990s according to this article, but it seems like it was never considered separate from Santa Paula (and I'm not sure that any of the housing developments were called Limoneira either). In either case, this is another article where I trusted a highway map when I shouldn't have. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 22:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I can highly recommend the history books that I mentioned in Articles for deletion/Kevet, California. They're available for many places around the U.S., usually authored by local historians rather than just any old people who happen to rock up, and whilst not the be-all-and-end-all in themselves, they are good guides to what subjects one will find other historic and geographic sources to support.  Also note the Teague-McKevett Ranch mentioned there,  East Area 1, which is not only documented in that planning application, but in many things like the 1968 California Historical Society Quarterly, and owned by Charles Collins Teague's and his wife's McKevett Corporation from 1905 until it merged with Limoneira in 1994.   East Area 2 as well.  Until the recent annexations over the last decade, a lot of this was outwith the borders of Santa Paula.  Olivelands Ranch, which originally grew walnuts and not lemons, was in fact owned by C.C. Teague as well, and not actually Limoneira originally, despite the misleading corporate history quoted above.  Teague was president of both companies from 1917 onwards.  The second Arcadia Press book has a little family picture with C.C. and Harriet McKevett Teague, and that's a fair hint that Charles Collins Teague is notable. History is so much better than interpreting dots and fonts on maps. Uncle G (talk) 10:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Trying to write about any of this as a railway station is a mistake, and there's really nothing of substance to say about the railway.  Uncle G (talk) 10:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Trying to write about any of this as a railway station is a mistake, and there's really nothing of substance to say about the railway.  Uncle G (talk) 10:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Trying to write about any of this as a railway station is a mistake, and there's really nothing of substance to say about the railway.  Uncle G (talk) 10:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


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