Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linda Cooper (New Zealand politician)


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The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 04:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Linda Cooper (New Zealand politician)

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Minor local politician. No evidence of in depth coverage in independent sources. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep "Minor local politician" is far from the facts. Let's see. In New Zealand, we have 63 general electorates plus 7 Maori electorates to represent some 4.5m people. That's some 64,000 population per electorate. The enlarged Auckland has just over 1.5m people, and they are represented by 20 councillors. That's some 75,000 population per councillor. Ok, MPs have somewhat higher responsibilities, but as far as locals are concerned, the actions of local councillors are probably much more instant and often much more relevant than the actions of MPs. To be one of twenty councillors running the show for a third of the country's population makes you much more than a minor local politician. I would argue that by getting elected as a councillor for the Supercity, notability is inherent.  Schwede 66  04:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep [editconflict] As one of the 20 Councillors for the largest city in New Zealand I would dispute that she is not notable. She represents more people than the MP's in the country. Also relevant is this previous AfD. Clearly the article needs some work and more sources but that doesn't mean she is not notable. Mattlore (talk) 04:32, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Do we really need a separate article for the whole civic roster in every little country on the planet? I have to believe the entire Auckland council could share a single article and that would be sufficient. BlueSalix (talk) 05:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete As per nom. Minor local politician is correct, fails WP:POLITICIAN. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 18:55, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above, below threshold - SimonLyall (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Auckland_local_elections,_2013. I do believe that city councillors, especially for a city as large and important as Auckland can be notable, but it seems that Cooper is yet to have built herself much of a profile (which is fair enough, given she was only elected for the first time last year) that has resulted in substantial independent coverage.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 02:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC).
 * Keep WP:POLOUTCOMES says "City councillors and other major municipal officers are not automatically notable, although precedent has tended to favor keeping members of the main citywide government of internationally famous metropolitan areas." Auckland isn't on the level of the cited examples of Toronto, Chicago, Tokyo, or London, but I think it comes close, so I'm fine with keeping this. As Schwede66 explains, "local" is a relative term when it comes to New Zealand. --BDD (talk) 22:36, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't think a comparison to Cameron Brewer is valid, he has a very high profile. Linda Cooper on the other hand only got elected a few months ago and hasn't done much of note. Search results in local paper for Linda and Cameron- SimonLyall (talk) 08:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 13:40, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Delete per nom.4meter4 (talk) 23:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as all the other Auckland Councillors are in Wiki, unless they should be culled as well. She is being regularly reported within NZ's national media (primarily in conjunction with the Len Brown affair, but on other issues as well). NealeFamily (talk) 03:32, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 04:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Auckland is the largest city in New Zealand. This is an elected politician sitting on the governing body of that city (+ environs), overseeing a $3 billion NZ budget. This is status that does, in fact, meet the WP:POLITICIAN special guideline. Carrite (talk) 03:11, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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