Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lindsay Robertson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 08:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Lindsay Robertson

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Notability issues. I searched as best as I could, but mainly found references to other people with the same name and some blog entries. The only claim to fame is showing at the same show as Ansel Adams, and the cite given only states the fact, not that he is the only person to do so, and has no editorial/review aspect to it. The only other link is his website. I know the article is new, but I took the time to search for myself, and the info just doesn't seem to be there to establish that he is notable. P HARMBOY ( TALK ) 23:36, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see my comments below, more info has been added but I can't withdraw with existing delete !votes. P HARMBOY ( TALK ) 12:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Pharmboy is correct, coverage in reliable sourcing is severely lacking for this artist. Showing work alongside of another famous artist does nearly nothing for notability in and of itself. Almost a CSD A7. - Icewedge  ( talk ) 00:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I would agree with this - there is a lack of information on him online, however the ansel adams show presented him as "notable" this may not be the case however

81.187.22.92 (talk) 13:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  21:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  21:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. Still undecided. However, I'm amazed to read that this is "almost a CSD A7". Consider this link, establishing as authoritatively as possible that a municipal gallery of a city of some cultural prominence exhibited his works in a small one-man show: we're not talking here about some commercial gallery exhibiting artistique soft porn in order to bring in some sawbucks, or photographer paying for a rental space in order to gain fame (or sawbucks). Further, there's quite a bit that's googlable about this exhibition. My own worry is that I can't quickly find anything else that's significant about him. (And I am always somewhat repelled by photographers such as Robertson who promote themselves on their own websites as "Fine Art"; I'd leave such value judgements -- on artistic merit, printing quality, or both -- to people who have some claim to be independent judges. Though this is no doubt an irrelevance, as is my impression from the JPEGs that any five of his photos are worth at least fifty by a lot of esteemed artists, e.g. two thirds of the photographers recently exhibiting at the ICP as "Heavy Light".) -- Hoary (talk) 06:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * As the nom, I don't have a problem if the closing admin wants to wait an extra day or two to allow you to find sources. I looked really hard to establish notability myself, I just couldn't.  P HARMBOY  ( TALK ) 13:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... looking for stuff on the exhibition with Adams, I found quite a lot, including reviews in the Scotsman and the Sunday Herald  (i.e. both of Scotland's main national newspapers). While the coverage is, understandably, largely focused on Adams, the reviews do have some quite nice things to say about Robertson as well; for example "magnificent pictures", "The exhibition’s sub-title is A Celebration of Genius and this epithet might equally well be directed at Robertson, whose large format images, mostly of the Scottish Highlands, are simply stunning" , "as breathtaking as anything in the show" , "Next to these, the work of Scots landscape photographer Lindsay Robertson seems an anomaly. Taken at Glencoe and on the same American plains where Adams worked, they pay skilled homage to Robertson’s forebear. Yet, the sheer size of some of these sets up an unlikely competition with arguably the work of the greatest landscape photographer who ever lived."  and "his work [is] talented, captivating and unique" . I suppose I'm leaning towards a weak keep, partly because I think the degree of praise just about makes up for its brevity, but perhaps partly because, like Hoary, I just like his pictures. ;-) Iain99Balderdash and piffle 22:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, with a tip of the hat to Iain for good googling. -- Hoary (talk) 23:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment from nom Some of those sources are a bit weak, but there are enough strong sources that if I had found those (and I tried), then I would not have nominated it for deletion. Since there are delete !votes here, I can't withdraw, but the closing admin may want to note that the nominator now believes the artist is at least marginally notable enough for inclusion at Wikipedia.  P HARMBOY  ( TALK ) 00:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * While you can't stop this AfD, you can certainly withdraw your own nomination if you want to. You could for example strike it through and refer readers down to your latest comment. -- Hoary (talk) 01:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It isn't good form to withdraw your own nom if there are existing Delete !votes, and is generally frowned upon here. Likely it won't matter and it will end up in a keep.  I did strike my comments in the nom just now.  P HARMBOY  ( TALK ) 12:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Iain99. --Crusio (talk) 09:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - the City Art Centre in Edinburgh is not a minor venue, IMHO.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Per withdrawal of the nominator. I would close but there are un withdrawn deletes. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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