Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Line of succession to the former Russian throne


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The result was delete. Tone 14:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Line of succession to the former Russian throne

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This throne has been defunct since 1917. WP:DEL-REASON 6: Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes). It is impossible to attribute the current line of succession to this throne to WP:RELIABLE sources, because there is no current line of succession, because the monarchy doesn't exist anymore. See also WP:NOTGENEALOGY. There are also WP:BLP concerns about the people who are listed here, including two minors.

So basically, the same reasons as the previous 32 lines of succession to defunct thrones that have been deleted recently (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32). TompaDompa (talk) 13:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 13:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 13:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 13:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete there is no reason to catalog succession to a throne that does not exist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep unlike the other lists in this series, which just presented an unverifiable line of succession, this one offers a load of prose (some of it sourced) about controversies over the succession and the history of the Russian royal family since 1917. Most of it doesn't seem to be covered anywhere else. It needs some major cleanup and possibly a merge or rename but I suspect it's possible to get some encyclopedic content out of it.  Hut 8.5  17:34, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It may be appropriate with a very selective merge (which would not including the proposed line of succession) to Pretender. TompaDompa (talk) 20:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, speculation, fantasy,  BLP violations. Smeat75 (talk) 18:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Devoke water  (talk)  19:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. This is not a 'thing', hasn't been for over a century. Even were Russia to reestablish a monarchy, there are no limitations on whom they might choose. Agricolae (talk) 23:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge The Russian Orthodox Church recognized Maria Vladimirovna as the Head of the Russian Imperial House in 2013, and the book Flight of the Romanovs tells the story behind today's Romanov Family Association, so I would merge the Line of succession to the former Russian throne section very selectively, as proposed above, to Pretender. Altanner1991 (talk) 03:06, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - as there's no throne to be in line of succession for. GoodDay (talk) 16:08, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename to Heads of the House of Romanov since 1917. This would deal with the issue that there is no throne to claim or likely to be.  I note that the claimants use the title Grand Duke, rather than Tsar, but they do use a title. There is a lot of content in this article as to the rival claims, which depend on whether certain marriages were morganatic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:43, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


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