Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Line of succession to the former throne of Württemberg (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Line of succession to the former throne of Württemberg
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This throne has been defunct since 1918. WP:DEL-REASON 6: Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes). It is impossible to attribute the current line of succession to this throne to WP:RELIABLE sources, because there is no current line of succession, because the Kingdom itself doesn't even exist anymore. See also WP:NOTGENEALOGY. There are also WP:BLP concerns about the people who are listed here, including one person who is a minor.

So basically, the same reasons as the previous 20 lines of successions to defunct thrones that have been deleted recently (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20). TompaDompa (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom  --Devokewater @  15:45, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, by now a fictional monarchy. —Kusma (t·c) 18:49, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep topic of major significance up to 1918, even if it’s of less significance in 2020. This Article should inform about who was eligible to become king, or today the Head is the House of Württemberg. Reliable Sources exist for members of the family which is still prominent in Germany even though no longer reigning. - dwc lr (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete there is currently no such throne, and hence there are no rules by which such a line of succession can be compiled. 'What the line of succession would be today had the throne persisted to the present' is just WP:OR / alternative history. Agricolae (talk) 22:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. In the 8 years since the last AfD, where it was kept on the assurance that reliable sources (in the form of royal genealogy handbooks) existed covering the members and positions of the succession line, no such verifiable sources have been added. It is also not at all evident that such publications are sufficient to demonstrate encyclopedic notability: the criteria for inclusion in, e.g., the GHdA are the family's membership in a particular aristocratic association and their submission of primary materials verifying and/or updating their entry to the German Nobility Law Committee/German aristocratic archives, which oversees the Handbuch. These books are therefore only useful for confirming a family structure exists, not that it is itself a notable topic discussed by independent sources. JoelleJay (talk) 23:53, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete For the reasons stated above. This is very WP:OR and stuff invented and assumed rather than being compiled from fact. doktorb wordsdeeds 07:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - How can one be in line of succession for a throne, that no longer exists? GoodDay (talk) 11:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: per all of the above Olaf Kosinsky (talk) 19:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * REname to Dukes of Württemberg (currently a redirect to Duchy of Württemberg. It appears that the descendants of the last king still use the title Duke.  There is no reason why we should not have an article on the holders of the title, just as we do on every British and Irish peerage.  The Duchy article does not list the Dukes, even before they had higher titles, which means there is ample scope for repurposing the present article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC)


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