Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lingdian


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is consensus in the discussion that this is not a valid redirect and can not exist. Furthermore, I will move Lingdian (band) to this place, per WP:BOLD and following the suggestions in the discussion. Everybody who disagrees with the move part is welcome to revert me and to open the discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Lingdian

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Per WP:TWODABS. Has only one bluelinked entry.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 17:35, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 17:44, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Lingdian (band) as that's a reasonable search term and redirects are cheap. -- &#124;  Uncle Milty  &#124;  talk  &#124;  18:36, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Lingdian (band). A redirect to the one use of the term on WP is best, as this seems reasonable search term. It looks like there may be a Lingdian music genre and Lingdian appears to be a location or town in China, so no prejudice to DAB recreation if articles on these other two uses of the term are created. --Mark viking (talk) 18:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete dab page and Move the band to the undisambiguated term (as an unopposed Technical Move). This is an invalid dab page, and there is no need for a disambiguator in the title of the article about the band. This should probably have been done as part of the tidying up after the deletion of Lingdian (genre) in May 2013. Pam  D  16:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep after Boleyn's addition; let's hope someone creates an entry for the location too. Pam  D  14:02, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and move Lingdian (band) to the primary page. As first entry doesn't meet MOS:DABRL, MOS:DABMENTION or have an article, this would meet the criteria for speedy deletion: [Template:db-disambig]. Boleyn (talk) 18:32, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Problem - absolute delete the redlink (genre), I believe the "genre" doesn't exist, it is a misreading to the Mongolian-folk-Chinese rock genre as exemplified by Lingdian (band), which is not called "Lingdian genre" as the band is well known but not that famous.
 * ....However, User:Taylor Trescott, User:PamD, User:Mark viking, User:Uncle Milty, User:Boleyn unfortunately there's a problem with removing (band) from band article. Anyone familiar with China is far more likely to be looking for Horizon / Lingdian the opinion polling company which is widely cited in the media and covered in Google Books. Horizon / Lingdian is already mentioned in passing in footnotes of articles but wasn't actually "covered" per WP:DAB until I added Lingdian just now to Market research and opinion polling in China. Very very dubious that Lingdian (band) can claim to be WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. If (band) is considered more important than the market research firm then a hatnote to the stub covering the firm should be added to the band. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Change vote to keep Added entry In ictu oculi mentioned, per MOS:DABMENTION. Now valid page. Boleyn (talk) 08:55, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  essay  // 22:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:51, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Note - normally I would try not to relist for a second time, but Lingdian (band) itself is currently at AfD and has also just been relisted. I think the result of that discussion will have implications on how this dab is dealt with. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and move the band there. WP:TWODABS applies. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 02:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * IIO said: "Anyone familiar with China is far more likely to be looking for Horizon" Can you prove it, or it is speculation? Also, why "removing the (band)" is a problem? Lingdian being redirected to Lingdian (band) is a violation of WP:PRECISION and the real intention of using disambiguators, as explained here: "As initially proposed (move "All the Wrong Places (song)" to "All the Wrong Places"), this RM was uncontroversial and could have been requested as a technical move (WP:G6)". The fact that if you redirect Lingdian to Lingdian (band) is like redirecting The Farmer's Daughter to The Farmer's Daughter (1947 film); it has no sense that that page redirects there, but it is the same result as here. You would say "someone that is searching the company would not confuse it with the band". False (or unproved), I would be confusing if I search "The Beatles" and I end up at "The Beatles (band)", that's confusing. Any reader can read, and any reader will read "Ling Dian ... are a Inner Mongolian Chinese rock band." Ignoring the fact that at the beginning it may include the note " "--ignoring there is no article about it, and it is not our labor to make the company notable. If it is mentioned at Market research and opinion polling in China (all these articles created by you just to create ambiguation) is irrelevant to this discussion. Or you create the article Lingdian (company), that passes WP:A7, or there's nothing to disambiguate.  ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 03:23, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and move per Tbhotch. --BDD (talk) 21:28, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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