Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lion Division


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The result was keep. Discussion to rename the article can be continued on the article talk page. AustralianRupert (talk) 06:33, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Lion Division

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This group isn't notable enough to claim the moniker Lion Division. Searches show it referring more to any kind of group or organization that involves lions. Compare to 106th Infantry Division (United States) which are known as the Golden Lions. Also 35th Signal Brigade (United States) which is known as Lion Brigade. Also Lions of the East Army in Syria. If this is to be kept, it should be renamed something like Division 3 (Sudan army). AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:38, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:MILUNIT. Probably should rename to 3rd division (South Sudan) (it also goes by "third division" and "division 3" the "lion division" doesn't lead to much, but with the commander name (Maj General Santino Deng Wol) you get to quite a few sources. Some sources:         .Icewhiz (talk) 16:59, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks . That looks more helpful. The rename is a more specific name, and Lion Division can be used instead for dab purposes. Some of the sources you listed are just name drops though, they don't really go into the specifics of Division 3 other than a passing mention: they exist, have a headquarters or mention of a division leader. participat AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:06, 25 December 2017 (UTC) updated 18:05, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * These are not great sources (I would prefer a balance of forces document, or something covering South Sudan which probably does exist as this is a hot conflict) but they do show this passes WP:V (including UN sanctions on the commanding general noting the formation). Seeing they pass V, I cited MILUNIT which would create a presumption of notability for a division (and even for a brigade or in some cases independent battalions).Icewhiz (talk) 18:44, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Question: Is this a division as described in Division (military)? I looked at the first five of 's links above (thanks, btw) and they didn't described the unit much.-- Georgia Army Vet  Contribs  Talk  00:53, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To my limited understanding, yes. It is commanded by a major general and has partcipated in the war(s) in South Sudan. The links above are not great, but they are in English and do show this unit exists. Even if understrength, this would still be a large unit capable on independent action.Icewhiz (talk) 05:03, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
 * This (a better source) - - has them (as "Third Infantry Division") with some 7,000 men. This source mentions some actions - .Icewhiz (talk) 07:48, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep is the AFD outcome consistent with the discussion so far, including with the consensus that it should be moved, as well, which anyone can do after this AFD is closed. --Doncram (talk) 03:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the discussion to rename the article. Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 07:32, 2 January 2018 (UTC)


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